• Sydney Wilkie posted an update 1 year, 11 months ago

    #davidmcguintycomments Regrettable. If indeed he resigned his role.

    However, as Liberals we know the pattern of Conservative tactics. Having now witnessed it for six years, we should expect it and not react to it.

    They won’t change so the reaction of the Liberals should anticipate aggravation, without falling victim to it.

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    • Let’s just hope he hasn’t fatally hurt the candidates chances in Calgary. I haven’t seen his remarks, but he clearly regrets them.

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    • Apparently David McGuinty just resigned as critic for Natural Resources.

      http://www.globalnews.ca/health/canada/mp+david+mcguinty+resigns+critic+post+for+telling+alberta+tories+to++go+home/6442757922/story.html

      Bob Rae quickly apologized and Mr McGuinty has now also apologized and resigned his post.

      A silly mistake made in the heat of the moment. But at least the party has done the right thing and without any delay – hopefully we get some points for that.

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    • Speaking truth to power…another victim. Bob Rae’s cover-up wasn’t very helpful. I respect David McGuinty and hoped he would be among those vying for Leader.

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      • Peter .. what ”cover-up” by Bob Rae? I didn’t hear anything about a cover-up just an absolutely necessary apology from him personally and on behalf of the party for words that should not have been spoken by a senior member of caucus.

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        • well martin, i see we continue to disagree. mcguinty’s remarks were to a reporter, not made in the house, and not seen in the broader context of tar sands being primarily supported by mps and harper who have vested parochial interests not necessarily for the broader interests of all canadians. harper’s remarks were even more ”shameful” rearing up the ugly head of how the east hates the west, the NEP, etc. what purturbed me most about bob rae’s kowtowing was only for poissible political short-term gain in one seat in calgary, and not put into perspective of long term gain in defeating harper in 2015 by more carefully chosen words and not chastising one of the better members of his caucus. who wins here, yet again? harper, as the liberals run for cover once again.

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          • Peter: a nuanced answer/response is lost on Conservatives. They will twist it to their own gain.

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          • Well I wasn’t trying to get into a debate, I was honestly asking what ”cover-up” you were accusing Bob Rae of? The term ”cover-up” generally refers to someone trying to pretend that something didn’t happen when it did. I heard of no ”cover-up” attempt by Mr Rae and was asking what you may have heard. But apparently, from your response, there wasn’t any ”cover-up”. I guess you just thought you’d take a free shot at Mr Rae.

            As far as David McGuinty’s remarks … if he is going to accuse people of being ”shills” – a fairly serious accusation if you look a the meaning of the word – he should be prepared to back it up with evidence. Add to that his suggesting that duly elected MPs, placed in Parliament by the fine citizens of Alberta, should ”go home” because (in his opinion) they don’t represent Canada, only their province, was an … um … unwise … comment. As pointed out by the conservatives, Mr McGuinty apparently never called on any of the Bloc MPs to ”go home”, why pick on Albertan MPs?.

            Making comments like those, regardless of whether made in the house or to a reporter (he needs to be careful, outside the house he is not protected by parliamentary privilege) was – let’s just say – not a good idea.

            Mr. McGuinty obviously agrees with me as does Mr. Rae. He has apologized and resigned his critic post. So I think you and I debating it is not really worthwhile.

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            • parliamentary privilege??? you really think his remarks are slanderous? just let them try, they know what they are. we need more rebels, as surprising as it was coming from the mouth of a generally circumspect character.

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              • Peter,
                We need to show some Party discipline.
                I applaud debate, discussion, passion for one’s portfolio, but not without a thoughtful filter.

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                • I think you’re completely right [ as is Peter on principle] the difference being as we are trying to rebuild out west, those remarks are not helpful, and not even true. AB is no longer a provincial backwater, even if their CPC reps sometimes act and speak to the contrary. McGuinity’s remarks were simply wrong, even if his point was entirely debatable. McGuinty was clearly frustrated and he has ,i’m sure, all our sympathies. But when we are dealing with a junk yard dog like the CPC smear machine we need to be smarter than this. Unless of course we plan to run against the AB oil patch head on come election time. I don’t thnk this is wise, nether clearly does our leadership.
                  We will of course receive little or no credit for doing the right thing. You can expect no less from this bunch of CPC brigands. With them it’s war all the time.

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                  • And now JT has added to the controversy, according to an article in the Sun.

                    Hoping that the LPC, and all leadership contenders, spend some $$$ and pen a clear, consistent message that underlines national harmony.

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                    • Virtual all (non-sock-puppet a.k.a. worthless CPC backbenchers) politicians have said something in their careers that could be controversial. I think in this case JT is getting press face time, and that is good.

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                  • Absolutely so. It is so easy for the Conservatives to paint a bad picture of the Liberals as so many of the older Albertans just love to bring up all the old rhetoric about the NEP given half a chance – and, unfortunately, score political points.

                    I would hope that ALL Liberals will think carefully about what they say in public or in meetings where they can be overheard or videoed, because sure enough there are Conservatives constantly looking for sound bites to tarnish the Liberal image.

                    It is a snake pit these days.

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          • I have lived in Northern Alberta. Anti Ottawa was a common theme.

            If they really want to stir up people, anti Quebec worked better. Like they had no political say, and another region of the country controlled everything.

            The tables have turned with the Stephan Harper Government. Let us be federalists without pitting one region against the other.

            It is not a cover up, it is clear policy. The Conservative spin machine will do anything to hang on to the Alberta vote.

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    • Out of character for sure…but i understand out of passion.

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