Name Keshav Chandra
Riding Simcoe North

Recent posts

  • #internationaltrade

    I think we need to tax imports from China. They don’t have any social programs for the common man or a social safety net. They have trillions of dollars in surplus. They are using that money to buy out fair competitive trade practices, and undermining free market economy.

    While we have extensive social programs and…[Read more]

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    • This would result in a loss of trade with China. There would be reciprocal tariffs and taxes placed on Canadian goods and services provided to China. The resulting loss of revenue to Canada would, in the end, hurt Canada. How is this a good idea?

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      • Martin:

        Do you have facts to support your position?

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        • Not really, no. Mostly my opinion after reading extensively on this topic over the past few months due to the proposed Canada-China FIPA. You are of course aware of the fact that Canada is moving towards more open and barrier free trade with China? And of course you are aware that this in keeping with current LPC policy?

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          • If what you are syaing is true then Liberal policy is hypocritical given the human rights record of China. I think liberals should be ashamed of this kind of thinking if that is what they are thinking and such is out of touch with reality of international dynamics.

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            • So you are suggesting that the best way to influence China (or any other country) is to damage our trade relations with them? To deny them access to the resources they need? To buy less of their goods?

              And this will somehow … what? … teach them a lesson?

              The best way to influence a country is to talk to them, to do business with them and to…[Read more]

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              • Policy of appeasement! they are not isolated but deserve hard bargaining. Harper does bring upo the issue of human rights. Yes we can talk all our lives to get nowhere like the UN.

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          • Your points one thru many imply that your logic is correct and there are no other realities out there. You also want to jump to forcing conclusions on others that are not implied.

            You seem to think we are trapped and there is no way out but being forced to trade with china on their terms.

            That is the psychology of a looser! Give advantage to…[Read more]

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            • I don’t think we are trapped at all. I think it is beneficial to both countries that we continue to have good trade.

              I also don’t think (as you seem to) that Canada is a loser. Tell that to all the workers of all the companies that are selling goods and services to China. You want to put them out of work. That would make us losers.

              I notice…[Read more]

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      • A loss of trade would not be a bad idea when it is so onesided with unfair competition, unless you think that we should close all our factories, and make up the trade deficit by selling all our resources, or even ownership of our resources untll the resources all gone, and when as the future is predicting they will be maning their mines in our…[Read more]

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        • Thank you Don!

          The truth shall set ’them’ free?

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        • Don, you just saved me from writing a very long comment that I’m sure would not have been as well stated as yours. I will just add for Martin’s benefit that he should read “The End of Growth” by former CIBC economist Jeff Rubin. Martin’s reading seems to have been all on the economics of the past century. We are headed for a whole new…[Read more]

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          • Linda: I am going to try and respond to all your comments in one place – this discussion has become far too disjointed. This will also be my last post on this thread as I feel it has completely lost the original point that Keshav was trying to make (falsely imo) and I also do not appreciate the tone it is taking.

            Why are you being so rude to me?…[Read more]

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      • So many good points raised here by Don and Keshav. Martin, I usually agree with you but your head is in the sand on this one. Kershav is absolutely right that we should identify products that we can make here and put such high tariffs on similar products from China that no one here would buy them. Kershav is also correct in saying that we are…[Read more]

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        • You are entitled to your opinion Linda, as I am to mine. I do not appreciate your comment that “my head is in the sand”, however. Very unkind and not at all true. I have done considerable research on on Canada-China trade. I believe I have a good grasp of international trade and the situation with China. I have formed my opinions. I am open to…[Read more]

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    • We went through this with Japan in the 50’s.
      This too shall pass.

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      • Bill:
        It has been nice to have a trading partner like to US. They speak English and they are close by. So we almost have an “order taking” relationship with them. We just sit there and wait for the phone to ring.

        But the US is having real economic problems that are likely to get worse. Its not just their national debt, they have increasing…[Read more]

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    • Hi Keshav:
      The problem with Stephen Harper is he perceives trade with China as selling them resources from Western Canada while the rest of the country imports 3 or 4 times what we export.

      I think we have to try to turn this around where we have a trade surplus with China and its not by selling them more resources. We have companies like…[Read more]

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      • Sorry Michael they don’t need your services. They have got these capabilities themselves thank you! They might even lend us a hand! China is as technolgically advanced as any other country on the planet. We did not build their bullet train or the train from airport into Beijing city which we in Toronto don’t have.

        My own thoughts are that…[Read more]

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        • Keshav:
          The bullet train was built by Bombardier which is a Canadian Company.

          SNC Lavalin (another Canadian Company) is building a number of nuclear power plants there.

          I am not playing down China;s technical capabilities. The point is they are putting these projects out to tender for international bidding because they can’t do all the work…[Read more]

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          • Good points Michael. I’m afraid that Keshav really doesn’t have all the facts. He does not understand international trade, Canada’s capabilities, or China.

            Unfortunately, there is a strong anti-China sentiment in Canada. I really don’t know where it comes from.

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            • Martin I don’t think you do either! If you were so valuable in your knowledge and opinons you would not be here spending all the time for other people to listen to your opinions for free!

              So let us get away from pretending that you know it all. Others have opinons too!

              Be humble if you can as a liberal.

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              • I don’t know it all Keshav, far from it. I am here on this site to learn from those with knowledge and to help educate those without and to discuss policy and ideas.

                The fact is Keshav, you offer no evidence to support your isolationist policy suggestions – ever.

                You seem to be unaware of the existing trade and agreements between China and…[Read more]

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            • Its not an anti China mentality its an cautious about free trade mentality. There are major dangers in engaging in free trade with such a large trading partner. That’s where the FIPPA is going. Elizabeth May’s concerns need to be considered. http://www.greenparty.ca/stop-the-sellout key points:
              We at the Green Party of Canada believe…[Read more]

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          • You got me there! We do not have a bullet train. Bombaridier as far as I know is fairly an international company by now.

            The strong anti china sentiment comes from its sad human rights record. You recall the shoot out at Tianamon square? Because people wanted a say in running of the country? Is that too much to ask? What about their hard…[Read more]

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            • Keshav:
              Re: Human rights I look at it this way. We trade with the US which probably has the worst human rights record in the world. They carpet bombed Iraq and killed 300,000 innocent Iraqis when there were no WMD and no connection to AlQaeda. The war in VietNam was just as stupid. The US love to attack countries who have no air force with their…[Read more]

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              • Um, excuse me … ”people from that part of the world” (you mean Asians) ”do not have the range of human emotions that we have” … ?

                Are you serious? Do you have any idea how racist a comment that is?

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            • Please explain to me – PLEASE – how raising tariffs on Chinese imports (how much and on what – you refuse to say) is going to help change human rights issues in China – HOW?

              And how does it help our economy compete with theirs? HOW?

              You have all these opinions but I see no substance in anything you say. Just anti-Chinese. How does that help?

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          • Their manufacturing sector is the largest in the world by now. We are loosing the battle of trade, and yet people want to help them further to destroy our economy and export our jobs. Wow! If we did not help them beat us then someone else will…

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            • Keshav:
              I think Walmart will still be getting their stuff from China no matter what sort of deals we do.

              But car manufacture is coming home. Jeep was going to move some of its assembly work to China but ended up keeping it all in North America after looking at the numbers.

              We will still have the trades jobs for vehicle mechanics, electricians,…[Read more]

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              • Actually, Chrysler never planned to move any Jeep production to from North America to China… that was an unfounded rumour made by Mitt Romney during the U.S. Presidential campaign. Chrysler’s CEO took Romney to task over that very quickly.

                Fact is, Jeep production has expanded in the U.S. to meet domestic demand in North America. Jeep…[Read more]

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                • Hi Doug:
                  Yes, you are right.

                  The key point is auto assembly is pretty well gravitating to the country where the product will be sold because of the increasing cost of transportation. The same applies for other things that are heavy.

                  So we should recognize this trend and educate our young people for the types of jobs that will be here 10 – 20…[Read more]

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                • my understanding was that some jeeps were being exported to china, but now they will be built there instead. so the decision does mean a loss of US exports to china but is also an indication of the success off jeep in that production can be transferred there – much as the japanese moved production to the US once they were successful

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            • Trade is not a battle – it is a two-way street to shared prosperity and growth.

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              • Unfortuneatley we have a large trade deficit with China, and our prosperty is dimishing as we try to trade with countries that have very low standards of living, it pulls us down to their level.

                It is not China’s fault if we are so greedy that we will buy from anyone, and ignore the jobs we are removing from our home, neighbours jobs, who will…[Read more]

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                • It is not greed Don. You tell a family that is trying to clothe 4 growing children that the cost of those clothes is about to go up 300% because of – what? Because they are greedy? I’m sorry I don’t understand how closing our doors to business and trade, isolating ourselves and other countries and stopping our population growth (?) is going to…[Read more]

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                  • Exactly my point, lower our standard of living by competing with lower standards of living and the only thing we will be able to buy is inadeqate food, and more then one family squeezed into on small dwelling.

                    And it is not the greed of the poor I am talking about, they do no have extra money for toys. But they are the ones who work in retail…[Read more]

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                  • Martin, it will be an adaptation for everyone. Second hand stores are full of fine clothes. I don’t mind saying that I’ve used them myself. When more products are made here by unionized workers everyone’s standard of living will go up. You’re right that trade is a two way street but the problem right now is that most of it is coming here…[Read more]

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              • And we have a big problem with our Balance of Payments vis a vis China. We need tarrifs to ensure that more goods are produced here. China with its quasi slave labour will always be able to produce goods cheaper than we can, leaving us to sell our raw resources to equalize our balance of payments. When our resources are gone we will have…[Read more]

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    • Certainly they have an abysmal record on human rights. But if we try an hold everyone to the standards and principles of the Liberal Party, hell we can’t do business with anyone – not even ourselves. Canada’s past record and current policies on the poor and on aboriginals are terrible! Maybe we should stop business all together!

      Contrary to…[Read more]

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    • diane francis of th enational post is someone who i do not always agree with, but on some issues like immigration she can get things right. read her column on the trade deal with china http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/11/02/canada-china-trade-deal-is-too-one-sided/

      more trade is not necessarily a good thing – it depends on strategy. for…[Read more]

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    • I think a major point has been missed. China is now part owner or Alberta resources. As such, they can set the price they sell those resources to their own country and a percentage of those profits will be leaving Canada one way. They are the big winners here and to my mind, Harper has sold us out for some obscure reason. I swear, he is acting…[Read more]

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      • Mullroney made a real deal with airlines when he was in office, and after retiring he made some real cash as advisor to the same company! If I have my facts right, it was pretty convoluted in the end.

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  • #leadershiprace

    With all the wise people on this website. With all the liberals making all sorts of claims, how do you solve the following problem? Does anyone have any ideas?

    This has gone on for so long. Please propose some real solutions not just a knee jerk reaction which is common practice and a working rule here on this website. Let us…[Read more]

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    • There isn’t one simple answer, Keshav, it’s a societal problem. We need a Canada that provides opportunity for all walks of life; we need to make guns scarce so that gangs don’t own them; we need to treat drug use, not attack it; and we need a justice system that concentrates on rehabilitation instead of retribution. These are just some of the…[Read more]

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  • #leadershiprace

    We need tough love bargaining stance with China with threats to impose tarrifs on consumer item imports unlike the conservatives who have rolled over and are playing dead just so that we could sell our resources at bargain basement prices to a government which is devoid of human rights or democracy or a a free market economy.…[Read more]

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    • This is just an ad for selling you something, books, investment advice, whatever.

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    • Keshav:
      That is a very long document but I did read the first half.

      I think most of what he is saying is true. The Chinese are very hard working people and they more together in a more harmonious way than we do in North America. They are no longer just producers, they are leaders in research as well. Anything they want to do, they can pretty…[Read more]

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  • #internationaltrade

    Given that government of China owns Nexen, will they now invest in pipelines made in China or Ontario? Chinese can easily fix their prices by subsidizing them. It seems to me that we let a camel in with no expectation of benefits to Canadian industry.

    They got trade surpluses and they have the capcity to undercut out…[Read more]

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  • #leadership

    There are threats out there to our future, our economic security and ultimately personal security. I think the following will shed some light on it. We need to replace free trade with an equiatable trade formula. If a country has surplus and is not spending on social programs then they have a competitive advantage over us relatively…[Read more]

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    • Larry puts forth a good sales pitch, but, i’m not buying it or his argument.

      Personally, i would support reductions in Tariff burdens, by about 5-10%.

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    • Let’s be careful here. The author is getting you fired up for a reason. This is just a big ad. He is trying to sell you something.
      I don’t think that China is going to be any worse than the U.S. has been, regarding acting solely in their own self interest, starting wars, supporting dictators, maintaining a huge standing army and so on.
      Perhaps…[Read more]

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  • #multicultural

    International day of tolerance? Words don’t mean a thing Mr. Karygiannis.

    I think we need to tweek the multicultural policy which is unfettered and assumes that all cultures are made up of angels.

    Given what goes on in the middle east and else where we should not be importing some of those cultures to Canada any time soon. I…[Read more]

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    • Note: “compassion” is often listed as a Liberal value. If that is to be the case, some may take offense with your statement “Given what goes on in the middle east and else where we should not be importing some of those cultures to Canada any time soon” and consider it to be in conflict with LPC value of compassion. All I am saying is that…[Read more]

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      • Andre: Yes, I agree. Compassion is a word which can be used to let those folks in who pretend they intend to escape persecution. I do recall instances where those who seek compassion were fanatics themselves but got persecuted themselves in the society they were living in. But I cannot go there to point out facts. The other thing is they can seek…[Read more]

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      • Andre: Please define and elaborate the word compassion

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    • How come Mr Karygianis is so silent? I addressed my message to him? Can he not speak? Is this site for propaganda and liberal monologue?

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    • One of my favourite former bosses immigrated from Lebanon. I’m glad he came to Canada because I learned a great deal of practical knowledge, as well as increased cultural understanding from him. I don’t think we should have a doors wide open policy in this country (we’ve never had that since we formalized borders), but I would resist the idea…[Read more]

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      • Life is not so simple as you make of it. I think there has to be a cultural match. As there are immigrants who do not believe in multiculturism.

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        • Not agreeing on a subject is a trademark of a democracy, and is a sign of a healthy one at that. Life is not simple, as you say. That is why I suggest we look at the applicant, and not just the cultural group they come from.

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          • John: I respected more than one Lebanese gentleman. They were very competent, and one of them was very sociable in addition.

            I once talked about the Israeli situation and the jews to one of them. He said things that I dare not repeat in public. I guess he trusted me.

            Yes, many of immigrants do criticize western women as whores according to a…[Read more]

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          • You might want to remind those who oversee the website regarding healthy democracy: Censoring one’s opinions about what kind of leader I think is appropriate for Canada is subject to censorship by removing the item from the top as the item is published. Wow!

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    • We are here to discuss policy. Nothing is off the table. I speak from life time experiences. Compassion should not be exercised using borrowed money which liberals don’t care to consider. The country is reeling with debt among all levels of government..

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    • There are so many things wrong with what you are saying, Keshav…

      First of all, not only is your sentiment un-Liberal, it is un-Canadian. That is not who we are. We are compassionate, open and tolerant. We do not blame individuals for the crimes of their fathers or brothers or a few of their countrymen.

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      • Martin: you make some very good and valid points.

        In some countries we do have good security checks to ensure that those who are violent radicals are flushed out from coming to Canada. In many countries the violent radicals are the ones who are revered and will pass local security checks. How come those who were running terrorist cells in…[Read more]

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        • Point of information on the situation of First Nations: see the Kelowna Accord. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelowna_Accord

          “The Kelowna Accord is a series of agreements between the Government of Canada, First Ministers of the Provinces, Territorial Leaders, and the leaders of five national aboriginal organizations in Canada. The Accord sought…[Read more]

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          • Andre: Liberals have existed long before Chretien Liberals and Paul Martin whom I really admire. Why so late in doing anything about it? We have been giving foreign aid all over the world over the years. Charity begins at home?

            From what I heard the department of Indian affairs used to be a bureaucracy mostly with a large overhead.

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        • Well now you’re talking about completely different things, aren’t you. Without, I notice, answering any of my questions.

          I do not know who these Montreal terrorists you refer to are, Keshav. I have no idea how or on what program, they entered Canada of if they were even here illegally. What I do know is that just because a system may not be…[Read more]

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          • I think I judge by results. If there was good effort to remove disparities among the native people then by now the problem would have gone. Canada is among the wealthiest countries of the world. You got to recognize reality. Liberals have ben arround for 150 years.

            I have faced bigotry myself in Canada and I know how it is like. It also more…[Read more]

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            • People change. Parties change. Countries change. It is called growth. I do not defend the actions of past generations. I try to improve for the next generations. Has the Liberal Party of Canada done the right things throughout the history of Canada? Of course not. Are we trying to do the right things now? I think so.

              I have no control over what…[Read more]

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          • I totally agree with Martin. Kendra, You need to get your facts straightt. I suggest by reading the preamble to the Liberal Pary of Canada.. Further the Canadian experience of multiculterism has been succeessful. We really don’t seem to suffer from Terrorist attacks. In fact, the newcom. ers should be helped a lot more than they are.. …[Read more]

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      • Martin:

        I think you might want to consider examining the following comment you made as to the accuracy;
        Here is your quote:

        “And, which “… cultures sanction brutal and uncivilized behaviour …” – which ones Keshav? ”

        Are you in denial? I do think that you read the news.

        I love Canada more than the liberals it seems. Yes, I did not over run…[Read more]

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        • That was not a comment Keshav … it was a question. I don’t know of any cultures that “sanction brutal and uncivilized behaviour”.

          I am not saying that brutal and uncivilized behaviour does not exist … I am just saying that I know of no culture that sanctions it.

          And I feel this is very important Keshav because you are suggesting in your…[Read more]

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          • I suggest that you reflect on that comment. You are in denial. I cannot help you on that one as I don’t want to open up another front of arguments. Have you not heard of treatment of homosexuals, adulterers, and those who commit apostasy? Treatment of those women who have become unchaste? Are you saying that it does not exist?

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            • Of course I have heard of these things. So, based on your idea of limiting immigration to cultures that are (I guess you are saying) “like us”, then we would not allow the homosexuals, the adulterers, victims of apostasy, victimized “unchaste” women … all of these should also be denied the right to immigrate to Canada because of the culture…[Read more]

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              • Martin:

                You are putting words in my mouth. I did not say any such thing. It appears that you are wilfully misinterpreting:

                “Of course I have heard of these things. So, based on your idea of limiting immigration to cultures that are (I guess you are saying) ”like us”, then we would not allow the homosexuals, the adulterers, victims of apostasy,…[Read more]

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                • What happened to your original comment Keshav? … the one that went like this:


                  Keshav Chandra replied to one of your comments:

                  “Of course I have heard of these things. So, based on your idea of limiting immigration to cultures that are (I guess you are saying) ”like us”, then we would not allow the homosexuals, the adulterers, victims of…[Read more]

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    • I am not aware of Ukrainian Genocide. But I am aware of first war when some Ukerainians were interned like the Japanese during the second war. There were Ukrainians who lost their property as a result. One guy who refused to be put in detention and escaped but lost his house to guess you know what type when he returned to reclaim it.

      You think…[Read more]

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    • This is a totally ridiculous post.

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      • Right you are Dougald. Downright embarrasing if you ask me. The lack of decorum (personal diatribes) in most discussions here is astounding.

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    • I agree. There is nothing wrong with erring on the side of compassion Citizenship is a privilege not a right. What we should be looking for is a means to correct the errors, for example by removing immigrant status and/or citizenship from those who misuse or abuse it. People going to other countries to become terrorists and people illegally…[Read more]

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    • I will briefly add that banning people who countries where there are terrorists makes no sense.

      There will be plenty of people who will want to leave a country to escape the threat of terror, for one.

      But my own ancestors lived in Northern Ireland, where more than 3,000 people have been killed in “the troubles”.

      In the 60s and 70s there…[Read more]

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      • All I can say is I am very disappointed in the current string of discussion. Although being democratic gives you freedom to express your views…I feel that this site has been completely hijacked by one person’s views with which I have no time to argue with and would simply have to agree to disagree with Mr. Chandra.

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    • Keshav: If words mean nothing, how about thumbs. Please check and take a hint. I keep looking for content and find nothing.

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  • #leadershiprace

    We need a leader who can enforce fiscal conservatism as we are carrying huge debt loads, and deficits. Ontario clearly was unable to spend its way out of debt reduction or into prosperity. Canada is quagmired in a similar situation. Hope that Carney lays down the law to spenders. I am partiuclarty concerned how Ontario invested…[Read more]

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    • I have to agree with you John and my goodness, based on other messages left by Mr. Keshav Chandra, in other topics as well… if the Liberal Party was to reflect his views in any way shape or form, it definately would not be the party for me.

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    • Fiscal conservatism eh? And what does that mean to you Keshav? Reduce social programs? Fire more federal employees? Austerity budgets? You can’t just “cut” your way out of deficit either. Governments must spend money when the economy is bad.

      Even the Conservatives understand that which is why Flaherty is now saying the budget won’t be…[Read more]

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    • I do not think the currant governments approach to the energy sector is fiscally conservative. I would call it political grandstanding.

      A fiscal conservative approach would be to put a price on pollution, and let the market place find the solutions. Until this is done, the government, not the industry, will have to make the R&D…[Read more]

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    • The statement that Ontario “invested billions of dollars in wind energy” sounds a bit unqualified to me but – whatever the publicly subsidized amount is – it is an important investment in the future. The objective is to reduce Ontario’s dependence on fossil fuels (coal, oil, natural gas) used to generate electricity and replace it with Clean…[Read more]

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  • #Health

    Michael Smith:

    Here is a mesage for you! (And to anyone else who wants to learn about modern medicine.)Please read the stuff. You might find that some of the statements made here may not exactly support my notions of health. However, this guy is highly qualified doctor. So please…[Read more]

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  • #Health

    We need to examine what is being said about genetically modified nutrients such as grains with respect to safety and financial viablitiy of farming. The news comes from India:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/10/30/gm-crop-field-trials.aspx?e_cid=20121104_PRSNL_MS_1

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    • Keshav: Thank you so much for bringing this up.

      Yes, I think the stuff in the Mercola article is probably true.

      I think the issue in California has to do with labeling all products that have GMO ingredients. I fully support this and do not know why Monsanto is so strongly against this.

      My own belief is that GMO has not turned out as well as…[Read more]

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      • India is one place where environmental laws and awareness is not as strong. It was government itself promoting use of GM seeds and the uneducated trusting farmers took their advice.

        They never have done adequate safety testing of GM foods. There was a recent trial by using rats and they found tumor growth among the rats fed GM corn I think it…[Read more]

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        • Keshav:
          According to Sanford University there is little evidence that organic food is more nutritious than conventional food.

          I do not disagree with this. My concern is all the pesticides and herbicides use in conventional farming are bad for the environment.

          I also think GMO does not offer the hope for better yields or drought resistance…[Read more]

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          • Canola oil is genetically modified from rape seed oil with no safety tests done as far as I know. Same goes for corn and soya. Organic foods are grown without pesticides and fertilizers.

            I don’t know how they compare nutritional values among organic and non organic nutrition.
            Who funded this study at Stanford? :)

            Some examples are selenium,…[Read more]

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            • Keshav:
              I checked and I cannot see who funded the Stanford Study.

              Here is a report from the Berkeley Wellness Reports on Selenium “Selenium Strikes Out”. It is saying that a number of studies on Selenium have not been promising. I know that iodine protects us from gout. I think they still add iodine to salt because we don’t get enough from…[Read more]

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              • Michael: Yes iodine protects us from gout, however. it has enromous implications to our health including prevention of cancer including breast cancer. You might want to read Dr. Brownstein’s website. He has done some clinical trials to determine the importance of iodine.

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            • Keshav:
              I checked Canola and it was developed with “conventional plant breeding” so it is not a GMO plant.

              Soy beans are also conventional plants transferred from Asia. Now most soy beans are used for animal feed. There was some controversy about “isoflavones” in soybeans causing cancer but that has since been disproved. Soybeans must be…[Read more]

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              • Michael for your information:

                It is genetically modified. Also 25 toxin does concern me, but I must say I have yet to read the source of the safety information. From what I have heard we should avoid it. I say each to his own with the caveat attached:

                Although wild rapeseed oil contains significant amounts of erucic acid,[35] a known toxin,[36]…[Read more]

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                • Michael for your information:

                  Soya has been genetically modified if you read down the article. My understanding is that 80% of the crop is GM.

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                • Keshav:
                  Thank you for pointing this out. Soy beans indeed are genetically modified. I should have read further.

                  Actually the latest figures show that 93% of soy beans are genetically modified.

                  Anyway, I don’t think it is practical for the Liberal Party to try to ban GM food. Like its already everywhere. The only thing that is practical in my…[Read more]

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                  • Michael: Yes, that is politically correct step to take. You cannot take on the entire industry! They have lot of clout. However, USDA certification for organic foods does imply not GM. There was an attempt made to allow GM to enter the USDA certification process for foods labled Organic.

                    The rest public education will have to suffice. That is…[Read more]

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                    • Keshav:
                      Its going to be very hard to start an education program on GMO.

                      Cigarettes have sound science against them so its easy to include it in the curriculum.

                      I have not seen much science about negative health effects against GMO. Have you?

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                      • Michael: yes, I have. I will see if I can find the article. There was a recent study which fed GM corn to rats and found the rats developed humongous amount of tumors. It was a clinical type of test. In other words properly done. My notion is that you should tell the industry to prove that it does not impact your health rather than the other way…[Read more]

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                        • Keshav:
                          I don’t think a mouse study is going to cut it.

                          Studies start with a petri dish (in vitro), then migate to mice then to humans (in vivo).

                          Health Canada or the FDA do not approve drugs until they have been tested on humans.

                          Dr. Mercola is not unbiased. He promotes a lot of products like krill oil and vibrating machines that have no…[Read more]

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                          • Michael:

                            Helath Canada does not approve? Then what about the following quote?

                            Health Canada or the FDA do not approve drugs until they have been tested on humans.

                            I suppose that genteically modified foods are not drugs! Just nutrition. so be it. I think thenutrition has to be beneficial to health. That is what I look out for. Yes those sugar…[Read more]

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                            • It may not seem right but carrots are not supported with research like what you would find for metformin or lipitor. Food is approved on its intuitive merits that millions of people eat it without ill effects.
                              When I say drugs, I mean the type of stuff that a doctor would prescribe.
                              I also agree with you that nutritious food is often more…[Read more]

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                          • Michael your quote:

                            ”He only eats raw food. He is against the consumption of all grains and corn which is not accepted by medical science.”

                            i don’t know where you are getting this infromation from. As far as I know he has never said that. Can you post your source of intormation?

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                        • Below is a link to a report that disputes the assertion that the mouse study you refer to was ”properly done”. It also includes a link to the report of the study.

                          http://theconversation.edu.au/genetically-modified-corn-and-cancer-what-does-the-evidence-really-say-9746

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                      • Michael:

                        You might also want to read the following passage in the article you referred me to:

                        TREATMENT
                        How is iodine deficiency treated?
                        There are no tests to confirm if you have enough iodine in your body. When iodine deficiency is seen in an entire population, it is best managed by ensuring that common foods that people eat contain sufficient…[Read more]

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                        • Keshav:
                          OK, you have strong views about iodine.
                          I just don’t think this is something the Liberal Party is going to adopt.

                          If we have to get into elaborate explanations as to why we have a problem with iodine, we are lost.

                          I think the people must have some sort of natural awareness of the problem to get interested.

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                          • We agree to have our own views! I think I also am part of liberal party. So I do carry some weight as a result. By the way mouse experiments are valid approaches to testing the outcome. In vitro to me does not make sense unless you can tell otherwise with an explanation. In vivo we get to it but before that we need to test it on rats. That is a…[Read more]

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                            • Keshav:
                              If you have a food that millions of people are already eating with no ill effects, this is actually a much larger test than ever performed by the drug companies.
                              I don’t know what evidence the Europeans have that led them to ban GMO foods. It would probably be more practical to check whatever sources the Europeans used.

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          • I pay the slight extra amount to eat an apple without peeling it. Because as you know the apple skin has all the nutritional value. They often polish it with petroleum wax derivatves and other compounds which might carry pesticides all bad for health. The price difference is not as significant and many a times none at all!

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            • Keshav:
              Actually apples for some reason tend to retain pesticides more than other fruits see ”Natural News”. But overall the pesticide levels are supposed to be low in any case. But this happens to be the thing I worry about most.

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      • Michael:

        Thanks for the reference. I simply think that it is wise to test genetic modifications of any kind done to grains we eat in terms of effect on health. We should not assume that it makes no difference. Every thing we eat has its own biochemsitry which we may or may not fully understand but assume that since we see nothing happening…[Read more]

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        • Keshav:
          We have a friend who started getting terrible muscle pain and his doctor could not figure it out.

          By chance, his wife tried a gluten free diet and his pains went away.

          Now a gluten free diet simply means no grains. I wonder if there is a connection?

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          • Michale:

            I think I will have to check at my grocery store regarding gluten free bread which they sell from what I can recall. I may be wrong.

            One thing Michael. I once had developed asthma during the height of my career. I would not go thru what it did to me. But I decided to see if I could get out of the mess. Which sounded impossible to me at…[Read more]

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            • Keshav:
              I know a guy who could cure people with terminal cancer simply with diet, nutrition and high powered supplements.

              One of his patients took my friends treatment plan to her oncologist and he threw it in the waste paper basket.

              I am with you on non-traditional treatments having wonderful success. But I think for the Liberal Party, we can…[Read more]

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              • Michael: All these society’s are practicing what they know. They are too blind to investigate anything else outside their respective boxes that might work.

                I think if you visit a health food store of some repute you might get a surprise. The place I visit is always teaming with people. It no longer is the domain of medical practioners to hold us…[Read more]

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                • Keshav:
                  I do not doubt the value of supplements sold in the Health Food Stores but I don’t think it is an area the government needs to get involved in.

                  People are free to go and buy whatever they want.

                  What I am saying is the science is much sounder on diet, exercise and not smoking than it is on ”St. Johns Wort”.

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                  • Michael:

                    I just ran into a Polish guy. By chance we fell into conversation. He related his health story. two years ago he developed a skin issue which looked like some kind of cirosis. Several doctors tried to diagnose it. Two bioposies concluded conflicting results. In the end he saw a doctor in Thunderbay. Who told him to fast for 21 days and…[Read more]

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                    • I know a guy who saw a woman who had a gizmo for looking into his eyes and she diagnosed his liver cancer before the doctors discovered it.
                      There are so many stories like this. But I think we have to stay in the middle on this one. People are free to get these treatments and I think that is the way it should be.

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                      • Michael;

                        Since i experienced it myself. I do believe such things happen. Waht I don’t care to listen is when a docotrt tries to explain the phenomenon or a occurance by an unscientific explanation! The fellow I was talking to stated about his health on his own accord. He is an immigrant from Poland. We were just chatting about the business he so…[Read more]

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  • #multicultural

    Democracy in action! Though one absolutely disagrees with the message from the protesting ladies they have the right to protest. The sacrifices of the veterans proves the very point they set out to defend during those wars and even today. They should atleast be thankful but clearly they were not.

    I wish these ladies had a…[Read more]

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  • #multicultural

    While the Toronto Police have stated that desecerating the veterans’ memorial is a hate crime, I think we need to trace the culprits who achieved what they sought in their mesage– that is publicity. I hope the message is not from someone or a group connected to what can be inferred from the style and the form of…[Read more]

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  • #Health

    Folks let us examine this statement:

    “I think this organic – GMO is a difficult thing to make an issue about. It seems to be a crime scene with no crime.”

    Is ‘crime’ the only criteria when judging healthy nutrition? When we devleop policy yes we want evidence. But on whom should fall the burden of proof? The recipient of the…[Read more]

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  • #multicultural

    Well Jim here is the deal. Today is the day when we pause to remember and honor the sacrifices and hard work of those who fought the wars to defend our freedoms from oppression and racism and to defend democracy. Yes, today we honour Canadians who fought those wars and laid down their lives so that the rest of us could carry…[Read more]

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  • #agriculture

    A landmark court battle was won by a Saskathewan farmer against genetically modified seeds on his farm. Recently there was a supreme court ruling in India on the matter too. We need to have policies regulating the use of GM seeds. The following article describes the hell one farmer in Canada went thru but won in the…[Read more]

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  • #LeadershipRace

    Following article tells of conservatives making inroads into Indian communities across the land:

    http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/04/in-india-harper-shores-up-political-gains-back-home

    I think we need to look at that question carefully. This is not to say that other immigrant communities are not equally important. They…[Read more]

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