• Marco Antonuzzo posted an update 1 year, 11 months ago

    I have to say that the last 24hrs has been fairly disappointing. An impassioned outburst, a damaging 2 year old comment, and now Ibbitson posts an article addressing the fact that, even though the leadership race has started, our rules for voting are not fully in place. Why not?!?

    The article even suggested that some are in favour of charging supporters to vote in the race. Where is this coming from? I have encouraged people to sign up to the supporter catagory and told them there was no charge. Am I going to be made to look as a liar now?

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    • Ibbitson is a shill for the CPC – I wouldn’t trust anything that he says. He’s busy trying to get his Senate appointment. As for the 2 yr old interview with Trudeau, I’m curious if anyone from the LPC has managed to get hold of the unedited interview. Some of the quotes just didn’t look right and I wouldn’t put it past Sun Media to edit out bits to make it sound more damaging. It’s not like they haven’t manipulated or manufactured the news before.

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      • Marco, I agree with you. It is very disappointing that poor judgment in both cases further emphasizes the prejudices in Canada. If I was an Albertan thinking of voting in a different way, I likely would reconsider that now.

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        • Peter: If Harper had not been running a divisive administration, why the results for the CPC in Quebec. Are Albertans to believe Harper was not punishing Quebec and using Alberta’s long standing woes as a sop? JT may have chosen his words better but HarperCons and big oil are running a well coordinated campaign to champion Alberta’s economic primacy and scare voters with another NEP. It is clear that central Canadians in particular and all Canadians in general are being had. Why not stress the injury to the interests of Quebec and Ontario from Harper’s economic ineptitude now and in recent history. What do Quebecois and Ontarians get from APAC trade? A bridge to Windsor financed by whom? How conditioned do we have to be to find fault with LPC but not with the world class destroyers in the CPC?

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    • Simply because Liberals were optimistic about winning Calgary-Centre does not mean anyone ‘actually’ believes it will happen.

      Harvey Locke, like many other Liberals living and voting in Alberta, may only be fighting the good fight in the losing cause of convincing conservatives of their folley and corruption.

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    • Hi Marco, would you provide the link to the Ibbitson’s article? Txs

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    • Ibbitson is more than a shill he’s disgusting licking the boots of the reform/con..hoping to get a senate seat

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    • I followed a small twitter discussion last night between “members” of the party. I will admit that allowing supporters to vote is new and no other party does it. But the optics could be bad.

      If we change the election rules and not allow supporters to vote, will they feel not welcome and stay home during the federal election also?

      This could be viewed as voter suppression, lets leave that image for another federal party.

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      • I’m afraid that we are setting ourselves for potential PR problem by not underlining the fact that our Supporter vote is a weighted one (almost all supporters who signed up are assuming that their vote would count as a direct vote for a leader). Supporters I explained the voting system to, were angry when i explained to them that, in fact, their vote would influence number of points a candidate gets in each riding (each riding gets the same number of points. It means that a riding with 5 members, has the same weight in the leadership vote as riding with 5000 members).
        Taking the above into consideration, a vote fee would be a path to a disaster.

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        • I am not totally sure if your post differs with the currant rules.

          I would not like to see the rules change until after this leadership race, if they change at all.

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          • Hi John,
            Sorry for not being clear – I do not advocate for a change of the current rules. I just wanted to point out that there is a widespread of misunderstanding of current rules which may result in disappointment when election results are announced and explained.

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    • I’m not so concerned about either McGunity’s or Trudeau’s comments, as they were both taken out of context and not seen, as they should be, in a broader context. We really have no chance of winning Calgary Centre, either way, even though it would be a nice breakthrough. McGunity’s call was for national considerations of Alberta’s vast oil and gas reserves, and piping oil to Montreal refineries is not only a good idea, it’s good politics. Trudeau, I thought, handled himself with dexterity deflecting Albertan’s social conservative biases to Harper’s. That goes down well in any liberal and Liberal circles, and especially in Ontario/Quebec where elections are still won or lost by virtue of sheer volumes of people and major urban populations, maybe not so well in rural communities. Like everyone here though, I would like clarification on the LPC leadership voting rules.

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