Name Martin Showell
Riding Toronto-St. Paul’s

My story

I live in the St. Paul's riding (Toronto). While I have voted Liberal my entire life, I only recently joined the party (about 3 years ago). More recently I have decided to become more involved - I suppose as a reaction to the 2011 election. This election scared me...a lot. The loss of the "middle" in Canada cannot be allowed to happen - lest we become a USA clone, 2-party system, forever trapped in diametrically opposed 'amber', unable to effect change and growth. Where my quest for more involvement in the LPC will lead...I do not know...but hopefully I will find a way to contribute positively to the resurgence of Liberal ideals and leadership in Canada.

Recent posts

  • If this is all you’ve got, Conservatives, start dusting off those CVs

    Warren Kinsella’s take on the latest Conservative Ad. I agree. If this is the best they can do, they may as well give up now.

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    • Overall, I agree. On Harper’s sound bite that “there are more people working in Canada than ever before”, well, demographics is key. If your population is increasing, of course more people are likely to be working, but what at percentage? Once you get into percentages, that argument falls flat. I’ve heard commeters in either the NP or G&M…[Read more]

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    • I’m not a fan of Kinsella, but he hits this one out of the park…it is crappy, no doubt about it.[ apparently there have been no buys on this on the cpc website. Not entirely sure is that's good or bad; but in order to do so you have to surrender your data. Telling that as yet no one thinks it worthwhile]
      The thing that struck me was the sign…[Read more]

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  • For anyone looking for my previous post titled: ”One LPC member’s take on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict and the LPC’s position (comment id 38507) …

    … am sorry to report that I have chosen to delete it.

    The original post was intended to present a balanced narrative on the situation, the LPC response, and how I hope we can move forward as a…[Read more]

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  • Some calm and intelligent commentary from Bob Rae:

    Gaza: Keep looking for peace, but no easy answers – Globe and Mail – 1-Aug

    Thank you Bob. Your insight is always welcome.

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  • Nicole … part of the having the right to choose is the right to make bad choices. The point is, the only person who can make that choice, when it comes to abortion, is the woman herself. Not only is that simple […]

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  • Martin Showell posted an update 4 months ago

    Generally, I keep my mouth shut when religion enters conversations. Canadians have a right to their religious beliefs, but … we also have a right to freedom FROM religion.

    The Catholic Church in Canada has come out strongly and publically against Justin Trudeau and by extension the Liberal Party of Canada, and by extension … me. I won’t stay…[Read more]

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    • Hi Martin Showelll,

      Remember to forgive them, the bible tell it so , forgive them because they don’t know what there doing, it’s got to apply to leaders of the church too.
      In Ultra Liberal, John Cormier

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      • True … but forgiveness is earned through acknowledgment of sin and repentance.

        Luke 17:3 ”Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.”

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    • Excellent content Martin. The Church has not business telling people how to vote! This is a throwback to the Duplessis years. The Church has long ago made contraception and abortions a sin but their own followers have ignored them. Now they are trying to enforce their moral rules by requiring the entire society to hold the same belief.
      It is also…[Read more]

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    • If you want to know more about the Conservatives involvement in the Coalition for Life and also the Parliamentary Pro-Life Caucus which involves people like Jason Kenney then see the expose article by Amy McPherson. Long but worthy read. http://freethepresscanada.org/2014/05/19/the-granddaddy-of-government-scandals-cdnpoli-onpoli/

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      • Yes I read this. Scary! And just highlights and confirms the necessity of Justin’s initiative.

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      • Why is it that this group appears to be 98% male?

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        • Good point Murray, Not much I can do about me being male but I asked the same question on a different forum where the abortion issue was being discussed. It may be that women are tired of rehashing the issue of having rights to their own bodies which should be a closed issue. However with this government, their actions have shown it is not past…[Read more]

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      • Thank you for the article Jean. It certainly helps explain many things including the inexplicable attack on the Chief Justice . As we have come to learn-there is always method in the apparent madness of this government.
        1. “In it they suggest the presiding Supreme Court Justices should be criminally charged for case exhibits they included in the…[Read more]

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    • Why wouldn’t we simply treat the church like any other lobby or interest group? We meet with them, value their input, but ultimately, make the decision that we as Liberals feel is best for Canada as a whole. Failing to meet with the religious community simply because we disagree on certain issues would actually suggest that the Liberal Party is…[Read more]

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      • I am not aware of any other lobby or interest group that starts out, before even requesting a meeting, by holding press scrums and publicly attempting to shame the leader of a political party. Are you? Is this normal behavior from a lobby group wishing to influence a political party? I think not.

        Several Catholic leaders have publicly accused…[Read more]

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        • Another lobby that gives out scums before meetings. NRA, sure there are others. What lobbies do politicians (or parties) fear most that can get out the vote is the question.

          Does not make it right, just saying

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  • Peter, please be aware of the context in which Justin’s statement was made. It was the day before the March for Life in Ottawa. An event sponsored by the “Campaign Life Coalition”. This organization has publicly […]

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  • Candidates are welcome to hold any views they want. However, if there are votes in Parliament that attempt to infringe on a women’s right to choose (a democratically adopted LPC policy), then any newly elected MPs […]

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  • Justin’s comment was not “unqualified”. The Liberal Party of Canada officially and democratically adopted a policy of supporting a women’s right to choose at the policy convention. People that want to represent […]

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  • YES! The Liberal Party of Canada accepts candidates of differing views – only when there are votes in Parliament will MPs be expected to support the democratically adopted policy of the LPC and vote to support a […]

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  • Members of the Liberal Part of Canada ARE free to hold “differing views” on abortion. That is exactly what Justin said. However, when it comes to votes in Parliament then they will be expected to support the […]

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  • That is NOT what Justin said … candidates are free to hold personal beliefs including being pro-life. What he said was (and I quote form the above “personal reflection”):

    “Canadians of all views are welcome […]

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  • Martin Showell posted an update 4 months ago

    More proof of the “misdirection” that the Conservatives will bring down a “balanced budget” next year. Deferment of expenses, putting people out of work and cancellation of services, does not make a balanced budget … or if it does … I want no part of it. It’s not what Canada needs right now.

    Back in March, Marc Garneau wrote on our blog about our…[Read more]

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  • “In my view, the procedure of using time allocation for electoral law, doing it quickly and without the consent of the other political parties, is the kind of dangerous application of electoral practices that we are more likely to find in Third World countries.”– Stephen Harper, Nov 26 1996 – Speech in the HoC

    And yet in 2014 Harper’s…[Read more]

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    • THe Liberal, NDP and Green should cooperate to put forward the best candidate in Poillievre’s riding.

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      • Yes, it’s critical that during the next federal election, cooperation must occur amongst the 3 opposition parties: the LPC, the NDP, and the Green party. That cooperation should not just be restricted to Poillievre’s riding. Instead it should be extended to any ridings in which vote-splitting could lead to a Conservative victory. If the LPC…[Read more]

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        • His Debra Rudan,

          A victory for Harper is a matter of how the laws are set.
          The way I see it, Harper at the top, next the Judges with all employees, which are the polices of the Crown that earn high salary. Debra, have you ever gone to a courthouse and watch what is really going on. You will see an accused to pay a find for traffic violation and…[Read more]

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      • Not only cooperation, but working as a single block to let everybody voices be heard by the conservatives. They had seem to are forgive that opposition is a NORMAL PART of the government and that they have the right, nay the duty to let their opinions being listen by the party in place even if they represent the majority of the votes. It is a…[Read more]

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      • Not only cooperation, but working as a single block to let everybody voices be heard by the conservatives. They had seem to are forgive that opposition is a NORMAL PART of the government and that they have the right, nay the duty to let their opinions being listen by the party in place even if they represent the majority of the votes. It is a…[Read more]

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      • Not only cooperation, but working as a single block to let everybody voices be heard by the conservatives. They had seem to are forgive that opposition is a NORMAL PART of the government and that they have the right, nay the duty to let their opinions being listen by the party in place even if they represent the majority of the votes. It is a…[Read more]

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      • is there a possibility that the liberald and the NDP would get together and run only one candidate and not split the vote.?

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      • in all ridings

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    • I’ve noticed this too. The vouching is the smallest problem with this legislation. The transferal of investigative powers to a department that reports to the government and not parliament is one of the biggest. Increasing the amount of money that can be spent or donated is also a big problem.

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      • … and the new rules for what effects campaign spending limits which also works to the CPC’s advantage.

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      • Not only cooperation, but working as a single block to let everybody voices be heard by the conservatives. They had seem to are forgive that opposition is a NORMAL PART of the government and that they have the right, nay the duty to let their opinions being listen by the party in place even if they represent the majority of the votes. It is a…[Read more]

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    • Totally agree, and yet the thing that really got me involved in politics was being told I wasn’t allowed to vote. (School Board trustees, totally not relevant except for being told I wasn’t allowed to vote.) My son will be disenfranchised by this bill. But as much as he humours me by talking politics, I know damn well he hasn’t voted. We…[Read more]

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    • I totally agree with you. It’s as if the Liberals have nothing to say and have no ideas. They seem absent from the conversation and devoid of any substantive position. In their absence of any comments they appear to agree with the proposed elections act.

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      • Gerry Chamberland, I’ve signed up to receive email alerts each time my MP, Ted Hsu, speaks in the House (alerts@contact.openparliament.ca). He has repeatedly and convincingly spoken, condemning this unfair elections act. (Most recent posting was April 11.) As powerful as his voice has become, the fact is this unjust government can, and will…[Read more]

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      • Gerry … that is simply not true. The LPC has been adamant and consistent in their opposition to the Unfair Elections Act. Just about every caucus member has spoken out and/or written something against this legislation Justin Trudeau has challenged Harper to call a free vote on it and he has promised to repeal the legislation “in its entirety”…[Read more]

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        • Martin…I am an avid reader of news whether in paper format or the internet. What I read is what is read by the population and not from the Liberal newsroom. My concern, while I am aware of the position from the Liberals, is that the “average” person does not see most of what the Liberals as saying. However, we do see lots from the NDP and…[Read more]

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          • Well then Gerry, you must have seen/read the DOZENS of articles covering Justin’s announcement that appeared in every major newspaper and many regional one’s last week or any of a number of articles and op-ed pieces from the previous weeks since the legislation was introduced.

            Or do you need me to post the links for you?

            There is also the LPC…[Read more]

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            • Hmmm you have in one fell swoop done a Harper on me. Here I am a Liberal supporter who is an avid news junky as it relates to politics, and you as much call me an idiot and expect me to follow the party line. You could have said the same thing and indicated that this is a concern. The statement is, by MY reading, quite true. It may not be to…[Read more]

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              • Are you comparing me to Harper? What a childish response to a valid argument.

                And I never called you an idiot at all Gerry, I merely pointed out that your statement was completely untrue. The LPC HAS made numerous statements condemning the Unfair Elections Act. I just don’t know how you missed them all and can make the statement that we have not…[Read more]

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                • You again missed the points altogether. But then again, I am childish that way. Imagine, at my age. And I don’t need to defend anything. I was commenting based on MY observation and not yours. An example of the lack of message was when a poll was take just last week. The findings showed that only 20% of those polled knew anything about the…[Read more]

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                  • Yes Gerry, associating me with Harper just because I disagree with you is surprising from someone your age. Kind of like schoolyard name-calling.

                    Anyway Gerry, can you provide a link to that poll please? The only polls on the subject that I am aware of are an Angus Reid Global poll from February 21 that shows only 20% were aware of the fair…[Read more]

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          • Good posts Gerry

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      • Perhaps Gerry missed the news on April 8th and 9th.
        Last week Trudeau pledged he would repeal the Fair Elections Act if he becomes Prime Minister. It was widely reported beginning on April 8th and mostly on April 9th, 2014.
        The Globe & Mail,
        CBC,
        Toronto Star,
        CTV News,
        Huffington Post,
        Cambridge Times
        News Ontario

        Also … the [Read more]

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        • Douglas, this is more like it. Social grace awareness. Yes I did read some of those articles and also partook of the Un-Fair Elections Act protest put on by the Liberals and others, on the internet. I guess what I am really saying is that given the propensity of the Conservatives to promote on a continuous basis through ongoing campaigns, it may…[Read more]

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          • Gerry, so now you acknowledge that the Liberals DO have a SUBSTANTIVE position. And you acknowledge that this position was FULLY KNOWN TO YOU and was WIDELY publicized BEFORE you wrote your mistaken comment attacking the LPC. Why did you write it then?

            Please explain to us all, why you chose to write the following KNOWING FULL WELL it was not…[Read more]

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            • Trudeau has said the LPC would repeal the FAA if (or when) we form the government. Mulcair has said the NDP would fight the next election over the legislation. To me, the NDP’s position is stronger and clearer. A party can promise anything it wants to get elected, and, really, what parts of the Act would be repealed (because there are some good…[Read more]

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              • Justin was VERY specific in his new conference: “… if I become Prime Minister, I will repeal, in its entirety, these changes to elections Canada…”.

                (http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-would-repeal-proposed-elections-bill-1.1768254)

                VERY CLEAR … but I understand, Peter … it has nothing to do with the environment so you probably ignored it.…[Read more]

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                • Martin, you are far too thin-skinned for politics, I don’t know why you bother. I guess you saw your name in a comment I made to Gerry and thought you just had to defensively respond, and negatively of course in reference to me not the subject matter.
                  What Trudeau said, that he would “repeal in its entirety these changes to Elections Canada”…[Read more]

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                  • Here’s Mulcair’s “propaganda” as reported by the Canadian Press :
                    HALIFAX — NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair says with an election 18 months away, he’s focusing on the federal government’s election act overhaul.

                    He says the hotly debated legislation should be the focus of the next campaign because it could undermine the rules of democracy.

                    Mulcair…[Read more]

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                    • Yes, I saw that statement from the NDP convention. It occurred just before Mulcair’s personal attack on Justin Trudeau.

                      Unfortunately that is all he has said on the subject of making it the focus of the campaign. He still has yet to explain (even to his own party) what that means exactly – I was hoping you had some insight – I guess not.

                      So, I…[Read more]

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                  • On the contrary Peter, I have a very thick skin. Your repeated, childish attacks against me personally are not the reason I feel compelled to respond to your comments, rather it is the inaccuracy and tired old propaganda against my party that drive me to point out how wrong you are. Please feel free to continue to your troll-like attacks on me…[Read more]

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    • Martin. I am getting totally frustrated and upset with ID that verifies address. It has made changing my address much more difficult than it had to be.

      I fiscally live in a rural area, Google maps and other mapping software only can find location if I input the closest town (on a native reserve). My mailing address is a PO box in a general…[Read more]

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      • Thanks for that Rick. The CBC and some other news agencies (particularly the Globe & Mail) are doing their best to get the message out with these concise synopses of the Unfair Elections Act.

        Unfortunately, when I watch or read QP and in most of the public statements both the LPC and NDP seem too focused on just the “vouching’ clauses. When we…[Read more]

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        • Martin, It is nice the LPC has aggressively attacking the “Unfair Elections Act”. I agree with 100% of what you are saying.

          Firstly, I wish our leaders wouldn’t use the phrase “if I am elected, I will cancel (repeal)….” it always comes out, like we think everyone else is dumb and they are making decisions off the cuff.
          Just sounds bad to…[Read more]

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    • While I value your input I do find your lack of social graces is only exceeded by your disdain of opposing views. Martin, it is MY opinion and My take on things based on My observation. One could make the argument that I am guilty of not being fully informed or in error when it comes to interpretation but to imply a conscious lying is beyond the…[Read more]

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  • Senate panel to push for changes to proposed fair elections act

    Oh my … Is the Canadian Senate actually working in this case? It seems even the Conservative Senators can’t stomach the Unfair Elections Act as put forward by the government.

    Unfortunately, I have become so cynical of my government that I can’t help but wonder if we’re being…[Read more]

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    • Martin I am afraid, we are being played.
      Opposition parties have limited time to make “points” on the government.
      Vouching, it appears, they felt, would be a winner with the public. Maybe a big mis-calculation.

      If you remember, the conservatives usually announce bills in a flurry. That spreads the opposition focus, lets questions go un-asked…[Read more]

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      • Possibly … as I said, I’m still trying to figure out this senate response. Is it that these conservative senators are actually rejecting the bill of their own accord? Or is it more designed as an “off-ramp” for Poilievre and Harper to make the changes being demanded by … everyone … without appearing to directly give in to opposition…[Read more]

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  • Justin Trudeau called for a free vote on the “Unfair” Elections Act and promises to repeal the Act if he is elected prime minister in 2015

    “This elections act is designed to help Conservatives get re-elected. But I am confident that, yet again, Mr. Harper has misjudged Canadians and that the frustration and the outrage at having their rights…[Read more]

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  • I know the LPC policy is to not use attack ads. And I understand that, financially and in other ways, even directly responding to them might be a bad idea … but BOY-Oh-BOY! did I ever enjoyed watching this:

    The Justin Trudeau Attack Ads – the truth the conservatives don’t want you to see

    I wonder how much Laureen Harper bid?

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  • Bit of a lengthy (and not always pleasant) discussion between Chris Stewart and myself regarding The Trinity-Spadina / Innes affair. As often happens in these online discussions, the parties involved get distracted by analogies and metaphors, the original points of view getting cluttered and hidden in the quest to be “right”.

    I have re-read…[Read more]

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    • The editorial in today’s Toronto Star – the newsprint edition – is titled ”Trudeau and the Liberals – Clean up the mess” (different than the online version). I liked Michael de Adder’s editorial cartoon on the same page (A14) better, showing Stephen Harper saluting democracy in the Ukraine and in Canada.

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  • Leaked memo spells out Conservative attack plan for Liberal Convention – “Drive, Disrupt, Disunity.”… The Star

    Lol. Once again Canadians get a glimpse of “the man behind the curtain”. We should not be surprised … disruption and disunity are the only tools the CPC has ever had and their entire approach to running our country.

    As much as…[Read more]

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    • What’s interesting is that someone saw fit to leak this to the star…not a common occurrence in this govt i imagine.
      just for fun i wonder what the correct response is? Be gracious host and invite Soudas up to debate? Ignore him if he turns up? Note he is ther and hold up the leaked od and mercilessly mock? Have some largish Liberal pick him up…[Read more]

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      • We mob him for the rolling paper collector’s item. Be very sure–they will be badges of honour and the most coveted thing to leave the convention with. While there, we might point out the Liberals have never been more united and perhaps looking in the mirror would do him good, and that we are concentrating on the economy and democracy rather…[Read more]

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        • On second thoughts in sure you guys are right on this. I’d love to personally throw Soudas out, but your plan sounds like a lot of fun. That’s the way the ole rainmaker , Keith Davey used to roll too – be tough, but make sure you’re having more fun than the other guys. Have fun jenn. I’ll be following online.

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      • They will have paid their observer fee. That’s money for us. Publicly humiliating these observers will be perceived as lowering ourselves to their level. No, give them a taste of what they did to journalists who went to their convention – take their money and keep them behind barriers where they can’t really see anything and have to hijack…[Read more]

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      • I’m going to agree with Jennifer and Linda here … in fact take it one step further … welcome them with open arms! Preferably with the media watching. Make sure everyone in the room(s) knows who they are and even assign ‘ambassadors’ (decked out in LPC paraphernalia) to be with them all the time (i.e. appear behind them in any/all interviews…[Read more]

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        • Heh, so of course we are all so anxious to get our hands on them, they’ll revise that part of their strategy. And then we can say, ”but you promised us rolling papers! You LIED!” Ah, win win no matter what.

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          • Lol. And that’s important! I really hope this convention is a FUN one (wish I could be there). We need to show a UNITED and OPTIMISTIC front. We need to let people know that we’re smiling :-) (show no fear) and that all are welcome to come and be happy and optimistic with us. If the media (on their own or through the CPC observers) sees a…[Read more]

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          • Or [ this might be a bit flaky] you could make up some dummy rolling papers and hand them out to the guests if they do come empty handed. Am i trying to be too cute there, hmmmmm?

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            • I think this is an excellent idea. A big Liberal L and ‘tax it, regulate it, control it’ screened onto each paper. We have exactly a week. I’m not paying for it (and plus, I have no idea where one finds a supply of rolling papers for real) but I genuinely think this is what we ought to do. So, who is willing to do the grunt work on this? …[Read more]

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              • Wait, better idea due to time and finances, we create a graphic of rolling papers with a big L on the cover (this is a Liberal rank and file policy created before Trudeau was even leader and it is US being insulted here) and the ”tax it, regulate it, control it (legalize it if there’s room)”

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                • Crap, hit enter before I meant to.

                  Then we each print off 20 or 100 of them and hand them out at the convention.

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                  • Sounds good. Can’t help on the papers idea i’m afraid, i’m a non smoker myself. Time is short, but it would even be cool if all the Liberal convention participants all had roll ups on them from the outset.[ yes, doubtless it would all turn up on Ezra with a misleading caption – LPC openly promotes Drugs at convention – but you gotta take the…[Read more]

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            • Hmmmm, not sure about that. Definitely fun but would probably backfire. I think we leave it alone. It will backfire if the cons do it – so let them. But if we do it, we will appear “flippant” on a very important issue that has a lot of Canadians concerned.

              Btw, there is already a dummied-up version of zig zag rolling papers floating around.…[Read more]

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              • http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/keith-davey-liberal-insider-could-make-it-rain—or-shine/article564395/

                Just my opinion, but i don’t agree. This party is at its best when we have the Davey approach. Admittedly guys like him don’t grow on trees, but Harper’s dour and boring style suits the CPC, but i’m hopeful we’ll take a…[Read more]

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                • Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree. With many issues I can see a place for levity, but not this one. I’m not sure even “His Eminence” could put the right spin on that.

                  Many, many Canadians are deeply concerned about the idea of legalization. And they have every right to be. The way to change opinion on this, imo, is not to dismiss those…[Read more]

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                  • Lots of good points but none that address mine. I’m not suggesting we mock Canadians with legitimate concerns about pot use, particularly with kids[ a fine line that]. I’m suggesting we find ways to mock out guests and their obsession with Justin.
                    It’s perfectly possible to have a little fun with this ans still get out a serious message. The…[Read more]

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                    • We’re going a bit in circles here, so this will be my last kick at it …

                      First I am not saying we shouldn’t have fun (that was actually my original comment today). I am responding to the idea of circulating rolling papers with the LPC logo on them i.e. having fun with “this particular issue at this particular time”. The rolling papers idea does…[Read more]

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  • Might the UK’s House of Lords Appointments Commission provide a workable model for appointing non-partisan senators in Canada?

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    • Martin: Positive comments on JT’s gutsy initiative run a gauntlet of political and pseudo academic cynics like G&M as if liberal is a character flaw and cynicism is not. Of course, it can work and here is compelling support:
      Senator Dr. (Phd. Biological Psychiatry: U of S) Lilian Eva (Quan) Dyck was appointed to the Senate in 2005 by PM Paul…[Read more]

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      • Lloyd: Lillian Dyck is a fantastic example of a brilliant, non-partisan appointment to Senate, I completely agree. And an example of how the system “could” work if our parliament were not mired in partisanship and our parties were structured to put Canada first and party fortunes second.

        Paul Martin deserves applause for his record of…[Read more]

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    • Here are the be-it-resolveds from an LPC-Q resolution on improving the method of selecting Senators:

      BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Liberal Party of Canada asks a future Liberal government to:

      – implement procedural changes according to the current method of selecting Senators

      – establish a non-partisan Senate appointments advisory panel to conduct…[Read more]

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      • Yes, I saw this. I can’t say I support it though. I’m really not sure what the part about consulting with members of provincial legislative assemblies is about. Why? Our constitution guarantees each region their representation, but it says nothing about letting the region – especially not a regional government – have any say in the selection.…[Read more]

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        • The non-partisan panel would simply be asking various members of the provincial legislatures and civil society organizations for suggestions. It would still be in the hands of the non-partisan panel to make the recommendations.

          Cabinet (i.e. the Privy Council) advises (read: tells) the Governor General on whom to summon to the Senate (see…[Read more]

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          • I still don’t really get it. Again … Why? What do provincial legislators have to do with a federal house of parliament? Which “various members” would they ask? The governing party? All members? Would they vote? I just don’t see why we need ANY elected officials, federal or provincial or territorial, having a say in the selection process for…[Read more]

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  • Trudeau boots senators from Liberal caucus

    BOLD! … Brilliant! … Responsive! … Decisive!

    It has been a long time since I felt anything close to this level of pride in my party and its leadership.

    This is what the LPC promised us and this is why we voted for Justin. Thank you LPC and thank you Justin.

    (p.s. I have also never felt so ready…[Read more]

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    • I feel the same way. However the blowback has only just started which he will need to weather: namely Trudeau didn’t consult with senators, caucus or membership over this bold and brave move. And it is a cynical move to cover his weak side. I expect some member and perhaps even senators will be upset by this, and that’s ok too. Disagreement is a…[Read more]

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      • Well, I’m not sure about this idea that he didn’t consult with anyone. I find that really hard to believe. He did not ask members our opinion and probably did not discuss it with the senators themselves, but I doubt very much he made this decision and implemented it completely unilaterally. I have a feeling it has been well discussed and general…[Read more]

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        • Martin, I agree 100%. This Is what the public is asking for.
          At least those, who believe in the Senate, as a Canadian institution.

          Plus LPC needed to knock the CPC off there “its about the economy” message. this should do it nicely.

          The positives, out way, any of the negatives.
          Thumbs up Justin and LPC!

          On another point, we sure are getting a…[Read more]

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        • Agreed. Although I still think it’s a calcated risk. I liked a Dan Arnold twitter comment that basically said: the leader of the third party has done more to advance senate reform with this move than SH has in 8 years.

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    • I agree with you Martin. The only thing that I would also want changed is the present system of having Senators sitting on boards of corporations and getting a fee for doing so. To me that is a blatant conflict of interest. Further, I would advocate for an all party parliamentary committee that would decide on Senator appointments. The way it…[Read more]

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      • I think along with what Justin has identified as being the problems with the Senate – Partisanship and Patronage – there is a third problem … Perception. Over the years we have come to accept the Senate as a “perk” offered to special people with connections. Often these have been good hardworking people in their careers and often they have gone on…[Read more]

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        • All good points Martin, But it is a fine line, that they need to walk.
          They are not supreme court justices, who’s final word, “is final”.
          It really isn’t a job, in the true sense. More like a professor, without the ability to pass or fail.
          The Senate, is only there for sober second thought. That, to me is, they have the obligation to…[Read more]

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    • #SenCa may be a good hash-tag for Senate of Canada discussions.

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      • I have always believed that when Senators participated in HoC election campaigns, and HoC party caucus, it was a conflict of interest. This reduced the Senates ability to look at legislation through a new set of eyes, a sober second thought.

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    • I also thought this was a bold and courageous move on behalf of Mr. Trudeau and the LPC. Here’s hoping there is more to come on the economic front. We need to keep thinking out of the box proposing long term strategies and solutions to systemic problems.

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    • According to an ongoing CBC poll, 97% of respondents (so far) believe that all senators should sit as independents. http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/politics/inside-politics-blog/2014/01/power-politics-ballot-box-question-377.html

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      • There was much commentary today that Harper had his way with JT during QP – mocking this move. i have a feeling the laughter wont last long once Harper realizes this is popular with the public.

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        • Harper and others are pointing out that the senators are still ‘liberal’-and that is the basis of his mocking. However, the public knows that the issue was never the values of senators but, rather, the PMO directing and tampering with the senate and the senate caring more about politics than Canadians. Justin made both those points eloquently…[Read more]

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          • Harper thought he was being ever so clever when he said (to paraphrase) “Instead of Liberal Senators we now have Senators that are Liberal”

            YES! Although he doesn’t realize it … he actually got the point!.

            Those now independent Senators, that happen to be Liberals, have been SET FREE! They are no longer beholden to the party, and the party…[Read more]

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            • Excellent points Martin

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              • Liked what Rick Zavitz said and as a retired Senator, Nick Taylor, Alberta, enjoyed being a member of a caucus that was dominated by Ontario and Quebec where I could forward western views.Willing to support JT in this trial as he is really telling the Senators to form their own caucus’s, or is it caucii,be it by party or region or both.
                Being…[Read more]

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                • “Cannot understand why he left out the appointment of the Senate Speaker which is now done by the PM instead of electing as does the HC”
                  I think this is going to be dealt with, in the second part of his announcement.. “if he becomes PM, he will…..

                  Mr. Taylor, since you have been in the game, so to speak, I think, we would all be interested…[Read more]

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