Résultats pour le hashtag #renewal

  • Excited to get back to Queen’s and get working with the Liberals on campus and within the riding of Kingston and the Islands! #summercaucus #renewal

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  • #Renewal
    No Merger for me. Why are some talking merger? Because we got a shilacking in May? Well we deserved it. Hopefully we have taken notice and will do something about it this time. The batlle will be arduous.

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    • Coalition, maybe, merger, no. Just based on my speaking with members of the Liberal party, the cultures of the two parties are too different. Similar enough to produce an alliance maybe, but not a merger.

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      • I agree. While I have respect for many members of the NDP and feel that the parties can find common ground while not in government, the real conflict would begin once government was formed. While in government the strength of the Liberal party has been that can move between moderate right and moderate left based on the conditions of the time.…[En afficher davantage]

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      • Ya I hear what you’re saying. We may seem to be similar, yet so different. I get the coalition part, it’s like we are dividing the votes, however I’m a bit concerned that Liberal/Right support might defect to the Cons. I believe that is what happened in May when people saw the Orange Wave coming. I think Harper himself was even surprised how well…[En afficher davantage]

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        • I saw two things in the last election: 1) yes, many otherwise centrist votes defected to the Cons to stop the NDP, but 2) many progressives jumped from Lib to NDP to stop the Tories. In a way, the media whipped up this “Orange surge” hype in part to create those two conditions. Well, it certainly felt deliberate. In the past 6 years, never have I…[En afficher davantage]

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      • Curious, would you know what their take is on possibly losing support to the Cons, with a coalition/alliance? P&P talked about that this week as a matter of fact.

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    • I agree 100%. Why is there only talk of merging when the Liberals don’t do well? When the NDP had 14 seats, no mention of merging then was there? And, when they are there again, there’ll be no chance of it then. I think that, when Jack Layton clicked in Qubec, people were looking for an alternative to Harper and, unfortunately, Iggy wasn’t it.…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal Just did your Summer Poll. Don’t like the idea of making it a law to vote. It sucks! Too negative.
    Suggest something different. People who vote should be sent a voucher for $50 which is not cash to them but can be signed over to a registered charity of their choice. The money could be taken from funds that the federal budget already…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I used to think it was going too far, too much of a nosy, pushy imposition by govt to force a person to vote. But i think this will fly with many people. It is a duty and there is an option to tick off none of the above, or even spoil your ballot. Not voting is also a choice. Some make it because they really are disengaged with govt[ probably…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I would agree that the notion of mandatory voting runs a bit counter to the spirit of many laws here in Canada. I definitely wish that we had greater electoral engagement than we do, but I don’t think that fining those who refuse to vote will work any better than the threat of jail for not filling out the census before that change came about.

      In…[En afficher davantage]

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      • “…, but I don’t think that fining those who refuse to vote will work any better than the threat of jail for not filling out the census before that change came about”

        Guess i’m just argumentative today, but…the threat of jail time and or fines[ even though it pretty much was never used] did in fact deter people from not filling in the LF…[En afficher davantage]

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        • I agree, but I think we would be wise to look at other alternatives such as taking away a non essential service/ benefit.
          We need to renew health cards, drivers licences and other things every few years for our own benefit. If we don’t, we lose those services or rights.

          What if we lose the right to file certain tax returns if we don’t register a…[En afficher davantage]

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          • Sounds a bit harsh to me. Just has to be a symbolic fine surely.

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            • It might be, but a fine forces people to pay for not doing something. Voting is a right, not a compulsory act that needs to be enforced through a fine.
              Taking away eligibility for a tax credit is directly linked to our civic duty to vote and participate in the electoral process.
              You renew your passport In order to travel, if you don’t, you lose…[En afficher davantage]

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              • That’s sounds awfully close to paying someone to vote. I still think folks will grumble at a small fine for not voting, and most will vote anyway. But if you start threatening to take away civic rights…i would not go there personally.

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                • It’s not paying someone to vote and is less imposing than fining someone for not voting.

                  I know that it feels like that, but it is comparable to so many other ways in which we provide services/ benefits.

                  I think that the 40% of people that don’t vote will be less resistant to this than being fined.
                  I just find it hard to justify a fine for…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I seem to recall some in the party thinking about a small reduction in your taxes if you have voted. This would be taken off the actual income a person declares.
      Don’t remember where I heard this but it was about 1 year ago.

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    • I definitely DO NOT support mandatory voting. In my opinion I have a right to not vote. And I have a right to not show up at a polling station to assert my right to not vote.

      The bureaucracy and policing of fining people would be ridiculous. What if I’m sick? Called away suddenly? What if I simply don’t care? You’re going to try to legislate my…[En afficher davantage]

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    • Perhaps instead of mandatory voting, why not make “none of the above” a valid choice on all ballots for all elections from Elections Canada. As it stands, an abstention is possible, but I think you have to go through a song and dance. If those “None of the above” were to be counted, it would be a great way of measuring voter discontent. Still,…[En afficher davantage]

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      • I guess the underlying question is: are voters really staying away because no one is offering them what they truly want, or are they just too apathetic to care anymore? Not that cut and dried of course.But short of adopting PR[ and the turn out in PR systems isn't a hell of a lot better than ours] where a voter would get exactly what they voted…[En afficher davantage]

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        • Forcing people to vote is a bad idea. Enlarge a program under Elections Canada to introduce high school students to voting. Civics classes should be part of education. There are other positive ways to encourage interest in elections. Canadians would balk at a forced vote. Remember the gun registry.

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  • #renewal It is my impression, that we don’t see a lot of caucus comments in the “Caucus Discussions” area. This is a problem.

    The occasional contribution by caucus members (even just providing facts with respect to the discussion) would start to bring the Liberal Community to life.

    I’d ask that all the caucus members consider their…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal #PreferentialBallot At the Ottawa biennial and during the leadership race I heard a lot about electoral reform and making the move to a preferential ballot part of Liberal Policy Platform for next election. I would like to see this get more prominence and hope we don’t screw it up with a complicated, unsellable idea like we did with the…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I totally agree Stephen. We had a referendum on Proportional Representation in Ontario about 10 years ago and it did not pass. It could easily be attacked by people who opposed change because it is difficult to explain and because some of the people who end up sitting in the House do not actually represent a particular constituency. You see, I…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I am not sold on proportional representation, and I do favour a preferential ballot.

      But in terms of a preferential ballots, there are a number of options. Most people think, here, of the “Alternative Vote” (aka Instant Runoff Voting), as long used in Australia. And there is no question that it is better in many respects than first past the…[En afficher davantage]

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    • Hi Steven glass,
      Would Government have more control by using fingerprinting in an election?
      They can scans for multiple and apprehend the person with double action.
      In Solidarity, John Cormier

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  • #renewal Can we have a justice topic? lead by the justice critic? I want to point out that the Con government is still posting the Supreme Court act on its website http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/s-26/ as having the 2013 amendments despite the fact that those amendments have been struck down by the SCC.

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  • #renewal

    Also – i wanted to point out that in discussions with friends, the perception is that the Liberals are following a similar path to the Tories – as in – tax breaks for corporations and almost unquestioned support for big oil.

    In Alberta, we need help from our Federal Government – because the Alberta Tories are giving away our resources…[En afficher davantage]

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    • Bill, i honestly think you[we] can expect a JT led Liberal govt to listen more closely to this sort of criticism, but i’m highly doubtful if we will see a whole sale acceptance of some of the rhetoric coming out of the NDP for instance. Oil is going to remain an important bridge to a much greener economy for some time to come yet. But what we…[En afficher davantage]

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      • I’m with you on most points. I like the philosophy the NDP espouses. Unfortunately, in this day and age, it would be impossible to make it reality. There are a plethora of changes to be made, once JT is in power, of which oil is a major player. Certainly having a national energy plan would be of prime importance. We will not make oil disappear…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal I support Justin’s (and the greenlight committee) in their decision to remove the candidacy of Ms. Innes.

    Open nominations was never meant to be rule free nominations. Open nominations never meant compromise free nominations as the party prepares to field a full suite of candidates.

    Intimidation of Young Liberals is intolerable,…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I also support the ability to make edits to comments. Occasionally I catch some grammar errors after hitting submit.

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      • I agree – we need the capacity to EDIT comments after we post them. The only way to do it now is to copy the comment, then delete it, and re-post again with corrections applied.

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    • On my limited understanding of the situation, I would tend to support Trudeau on this decision. From what we have been told, Innes and her team were using unacceptable tactics and we cannot tolerate the in-fighting this party has exhibited in the past.

      However, your comment that “Open nominations was never meant to be rule free nominations.”[En afficher davantage]

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      • Good question. ‘What are the rules’.

        I can’t give you a list but I would assume that if Justin says ‘each nominee will be chosen by a free vote’ then it follows that anything that impedes that free vote would be against the rules. Clearly then intimidation / suppression tactics would be against the rules.

        I think we’ll see more and more of this…[En afficher davantage]

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        • I completely agree … that would seem to be a logical and appropriate rule.

          However, as much as I respect Justin and respect decisive leadership … I have difficulty accepting that “rules were broken” without proof. Justin saying so, is just not enough for me. Perhaps it would have been better to present the rules first followed by proof they…[En afficher davantage]

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          • I’m genuinely wondering what would satisfy your proof requirement?
            Should the names and testimony of the accusers be made public? Should we air out party grievances in a public forum? Since we are a political party and not a court of law how do we set the standard of proof? Can we compel testimony? Does the accused have the right to silence that…[En afficher davantage]

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            • I’m not sure how to answer that except to turn the question around … Are you suggesting that because we are a political party, secret accusations can be made behind closed doors and judgment rendered by dictate? Doesn’t that open the door to corruption and dictatorship? And doesn’t that draw to question the true motivations of the accusers and…[En afficher davantage]

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              • The basic rule of law does apply of course, as applied to the party by acts of parliament. I think the idea that it doesn’t is a little bit of hyperbole. As an organization we govern ourselves largely based on the party constitution. Therein we’ve given the leader the final veto on these matters with no obligation to report to us. This is not a…[En afficher davantage]

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                • I guess then, based on your HR analogy, that you have never heard of a “wrongful dismissal suit”. Private organizations ARE held accountable and MUST follow the rule of law. Perhaps more importantly, for a political party, if employees are regularly fired without cause, on what appears to be a whim of the CEO, that company will inevitably find it…[En afficher davantage]

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                  • I think you’re missing the technical points I’m making in favor of arguing against an imperfect metaphor. Specifically, what rights, as defined by an act of parliament or Liberal Party constitution, was Innes denied? I’m just not big on appeals to some grander law or concept. We have specific mechanisms in our party constitution and legislation…[En afficher davantage]

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                    • Actually I dismissed your inaccurate analogy rather quickly and did not “favour” it at all. I think it is very unfair of you to present a (self-described) “imperfect metaphor” and then not only expect it to go unchallenged, but to fault me for pointing out it’s inapplicability to the current discussion.

                      Now … I completely understand what you are…[En afficher davantage]

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                      • I’m sorry, I’ve read that over and honestly I see neither why the analogy is questionable (again, I’m a technical person, Imperfect metaphor/analogy is a logical statement not an admission of the fallacy of questionable analogy) nor where I’m supposed to be convinced that open nominations is somehow in jeopardy(i.e.. promise broken) because the…[En afficher davantage]

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                        • Fine Chris. I’m not going to waste mre time arguing an analogy that is in your words “imperfect”. However, I stand by what I said … private organizations do (at least to some degree) need to uphold the rule of law. My impression was that you were saying they did not. Perhaps I misread.

                          Certainly my point that if private organizations fire people…[En afficher davantage]

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                          • Well, I’m sad to see that instead of taking personal responsibility and working with me to make the party better you would insult my intelligence and understanding.of your arguments. It could be that we simply disagree and are working from different definitions and expectations.Different beliefs about the application of fundamental justice,…[En afficher davantage]

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                            • First … I feel no sense of responsibility to work on constitutional changes to legitimize decisions on policy forced upon is by our leader without consultation with his party membership. I do not and did not support his “open” nomination policy.

                              Second … I don’t disagree with anything you have said. As I said in my previous comment, you…[En afficher davantage]

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          • Oh, just wanted to say I love this conversation and have the highest respect for your views. I certainly share them on the court-of-law sort of level. Just not sure that they fit perfectly with political party governance.

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    • We cannot determine where mistakes were made because we do not know the details of how the discussion between the parties went from the start. I believe such matters should be dealt with with discretion, in a manner that is based on truth and facts, with the outcome being fair and beneficial to all concerned. The way it did unfold – becoming a…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I also support Justin’s decision. There is a long history of party interference, granted more with her husband Tony Ianno, and causing dissention. I think we need more clarification on what “green lighting” a candidate entails. Justin and his team have their eye on the big picture for the party and it was obvious at the convention what that might…[En afficher davantage]

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    • The question that has not been answered is how involved her husband is in her campaign.
      If he is involved how can she say she knows nothing about the goings on?
      It comes back to the candidate being responsible for everything that happens in their campaign.

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    • http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/hon-carolyn-bennett/liberals-open-nomination_b_5001437.html

      “Gatekeepers, bullying and intimidation have no place in our party. Members of our party need to feel confident that if they report behaviour not in keeping with the values or the rules of our party that the party will investigate and follow up with…[En afficher davantage]

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      • I agree completely John … But, is the appropriate consequence to agree to overlook the transgressions as long as the offender agrees to our demands to not run in a certain riding to protect another candidate?

        I just don’t understand how the party or Justin can rationalize the letter from David MacNaughton Innes, according to the letter, had…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal On March 21 a new NASA report was published:

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists

    I talked to some young people on facebook about this. I said we need to vote to change things for the better.

    One response from a 30 year old Vancouver woman: ‘Bring…[En afficher davantage]

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    • Bill, I completly agree with the young woman who believes the economy will collapse and the sooner the better. But it still matters what we do in the meantime. We need to foster the belief in a caring compasionate society if there is any hope of building a better society after that collapse.

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    • Voting is only part of the answer to your concerns. Some people would like to think that all they need do is one thing and then never have to worry about it again. I place people who claim that voting is meaningless in that category. A majority of Canadians vote come election time and then never get involved in the running of our country until the…[En afficher davantage]

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    • The problem with young people is lack of experience. Each generation seems to believe that the end of the world is coming and each has been wrong – so far. Remember “duck and cover”? Remember chlorofluorocarbons and the unstoppable hole in the ozone? I remember reading in the mid ’60’s that there wasn’t going to be enough food by 2000 and that…[En afficher davantage]

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      • Not to dispute what you and others are saying here – nothing just happens, thats for sure. But a significant number of young people are doing what they can to change the world around them; they’re doing it by joining NGOs and environmental groups, not through politics. Many don’t seem to have any faith in politicians to make a difference. You can…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I’m with you Bill. As a retired social worker and past owner of several businesses I still feel the same way. While the corporate side of things is extremely important and valuable, what seems to be occurring is that populations seem to have less and less say about how they want their world to be. I suspect this coming summer should prove…[En afficher davantage]

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    • I just watched a W5 program about Cuba. There, with free post secondary education and there not seeming to be any huge income disparity, one would expect a better outcome. I guess that being ostracized by the U.S. doesn’t help and not having enough natural resources doesn’t help but one would hope that a country like Cuba would be able to…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal
    I just signed the trans fat petition. It’s good to have these petitions on this site.

    Thing is: after i signed, there’s the social media buttons for sharing – except i feel reluctant to share. I know my friends. A lot of them wouldn’t like it, i feel. The thing is, i want to share because i like Justin – i believe in him. He’s…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal #environment #health

    A few years ago i was in Australia and i met Bill Hauritz, the founder of a great festival there called ‘The Woodford Festival’ (http://www.woodfordfolkfestival.com/) Bill told me many great stories – but the best was about his 500 year plan for the festival!

    This was very inspiring to me – it made so much sense…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal I had hoped that all of these founding meetings would have resulted in positive change for the party. I still have hope for that. My concern is that new boards, coupled with heavily contested open nominations has resulted in some unintended consequences. We have to be very careful to ensure that we maintain a high moral and ethical…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal
    Perhaps we need to look at this. I’m sure the study is just as relevant here as in the UK. The question is: `Have we the courage to deal with the issues, and we know they are true, head on?’

    If we want to look at `root causes’ for anything, this would be a good place to start since it has had a huge impact on democracy, here and in…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal Just want to say I am stoked at having been one of the midwives present tonite at the birth of the New Liberal Riding Association of Flamborough-Glanbrook. More Gen Y’s than Boomers-exciting! (and I’m a Boomer) Can’t wait to work with our new Prez, Andrew Richardson :)

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    • Your enthusiasm should affect us all. Thanks, Laurel, as I am awaiting the rebirth in Oshawa so that our enthusiasm will translate into a Liberal victory in a previously CON riding.

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  • Here is my latest blog entry on the role of the #LPC President: http://www.bgrice.com/defining_the_role_of_the_national_president. I’d love to hear your thoughts on the administration of our Party and what you would like to see from your next President.
    #LIB14 #Convention #Renewal

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    • Hi Brian,
      I’m relatively new to the Party and the associated rules, processes and customs, so forgive me if I make any misinterpretations in the following post. First of all, thank-you for stepping up to contend for this critical position. Clearly, this position requires the utmost commitment, including the necessary empathy and personal security…[En afficher davantage]

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      • Thanks, Greg, for pointing out the obvious confict between Section 26(1) and 32(1) with relates to chairing of the Council of Presidents (CoP). I have brought this inconsistency up in the past in other forums (not here) and I HOPE the National Board will be proposing an amendment to eliminate this conflict at the Biennial Convention, Feb. 21-23 in…[En afficher davantage]

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        • Hi Doug, and thanks for joining in. I’m quite surprised that this error has not been corrected if it was already identified in the past, particularly given the gravity of the implications for such an important position and group.

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      • Hi Greg, thank you for your post and comments. Sorry I haven’t responded sooner.

        At the 2012 convention the constitution was changed to change the chair of the CoP from the President to a Riding President elected by their peers. The line in 32.1 referencing the President being the chair is an artifact that should be changed when the…[En afficher davantage]

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        • Brian,
          Thank-you for the reply and clarifications, Given that this contradiction was addressed at the 2012 convention, the outcome is now documented in those minutes, so less urgent to amend the constitution, but fully support this being amended in the next update. I’m glad that you agree with the decided outcome and the importance of the CoP to…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal I urge everyone who is attending the Biennial in Montreal to look carefully at the two candidates who are running for president of the party, Brian Rice and Anna Gainey. Below are links to Brian’s platform and his view of the role of the president: http://www.bgrice.com/platform http://www.bgrice.com/the_role_of_president
    Here…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #environment
    Kirsty, Thank goodness you are still here. I haven’t been on this website for a number of months but to my dismay LeadershipRace is still the most popular topic and Bob Rae is still leading discussion on #Renewal. Can we get with the times and have the Caucus Critics lead discussions on their portfolios and have popular topics…[En afficher davantage]

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    • While Kirsty Duncan has the background, passion and interest in the environment it is no longer her portfolio. That porfolio now belongs to John MacKay. We can only hope he brings the same passion to environmental issues as Kirsty does. I rarely hear anything from him about it however. There must be a reason but I sure don’t understand it. Given…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal – How about making the next Pesident & Executive elections a one member one vote trial run for the the next leadership race? Everyone running should send out a detailed and complete resume including their reason for seeking the position to every member of the LPC to make it an informed decision… Now that would be a true renewal of…[En afficher davantage]

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    • Just to be clear, what I’m about to say is a question, not a statement. And it’s not intended as a leading question, but rather a question asked out of my ignorance on the matter.

      Is a one-member-one-vote election for the executive currently possible or does the Liberal Party Constitution specify a delegated election? If the latter, if people…[En afficher davantage]

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    • From today’s G&M ANTONIA MAIONI about the centre

      “Move away from the middle of the road: For years, Liberals have fed off the notion of moderation and centrism, of being neither here nor there. But the middle of the road can be a dangerous place – especially if you don’t know where you’re going. The Liberal Party’s challenge is to reimagine the…[En afficher davantage]

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      • The Liberal party I support, am a Victory Fund member of and vote for is a non-ideological, centrist party that is neither left nor right, fiscally responsible and socially and environmentally conscious… To become anything else betrays what the vast majority of true Liberals believe what the Liberal Party of Canada is… Becoming essentially NDP…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal
    The party supporter category worked extremely well in growing our base in the Leadership selection process.
    This same concept needs to be adopted for our candidate selection process. An aggressive would be candidate with a strong committee can stir up a lot of interest in each constituency and gain a lot of new Liberal supporters. This…[En afficher davantage]

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    • This was considered and voted on at the last convention I do believe. Expression of bone fide commitment and allegiance to Liberal Party values and principles is best expressed through membership. The privilege of selecting a candidate is best done by this “oath” of support through a paid membership. Otherwise, in my view, it devalues party…[En afficher davantage]

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  • #renewal We had a very nice time last night at a Creole restaurant where liberal colleagues met to meet with Daniol Coles. We will work toward earning a liberal seat in the new riding of north Edmonton. Much to do, but a great bunch of people and we will strive to do our best!

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