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It’s time for a Royal Commission on election fraud

Posted by Bob Rae on March 13, 2012 | No Comments

Misleading, harassing phone calls? Instant-voters with no address? Not in my Canada. It’s time for the truth. 

That’s why yesterday in Question Period I called on the Conservative Government to immediately launch a Royal Commission on electoral fraud.

And that’s why today the Liberal Party of Canada proactively disclosed its calling data related to the 2011 federal campaign to assist Elections Canada with their ongoing investigation, setting the standard for openness and transparency.

We need to determine whether the Canada Elections Act and other Canadian laws are sufficient to protect your right to vote.

Only an independent, fully-empowered Royal Commission, alongside the Elections Canada investigation – and any possible investigation by the RCMP – can rebuild that trust.

Please click here to sign the petition and add your voice to the call for a Royal Commission on election fraud.

Then please forward this email to family and friends and share the petition on Facebook and Twitter – because a Canada that protects your right to vote is worth fighting for.

http://lpc.ca/royalcommission

Thank you.

Bob Rae

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  1. Profile photo of Kannan Nair Kannan Nair said on

    No more result is going to come out.’That is the end result’.
    Since all are involved,it is better close this topic and concentrate
    the welfare of Canadians inside and outside.

    Be make sure,only Tory’s are involved or others too.

    Canadians are struggling now,because of bad economy.
    These kinds of wasting time are leading us to where?

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  2. Profile photo of Paul Kay Paul Kay said on

    I found out where my polling station was from a piece of mail sent to me by Elections Canada. It was all the information I needed to know. Calls to my house from all parties are always ignored. I don’t have time for them.

    We already have systems in place – Elections Canada and the RCMP – to find the source of these calls and determine any wrongdoings. Let’s give them the opportunity to do their job.

    With all due respect, I cannot support your request for a Royal Commission. That approach only addresses a symptom of the faults in the electoral process, and not the root of the problem, which is education, or more specifically, the lack of education in the election process that is provided to voters.

    A well informed and fully engaged citizenry would do more to prevent future incidents of this nature than evaluating laws or creating new ones. The more laws created, the more creative people become to circumvent them. There is insufficient education on the political processes of this country in our schools, and there needs to be more focus placed on it as young people approach the age of voting. They need to be given the tools to understand the value of being an active participant in the politics of this country. Politics needs to be relevant in everyone’s life.

    A Royal Commission is a one-time unrecoverable cost that may be of little benefit in the end, and I think it’s far too easy to spend other people’s (taxpayers) money making these lofty requests. Education pays dividends in the future.

    Best Regards,

    Paul Kay

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    • Profile photo of Maureen Cursley Maureen Cursley said on

      Replying to yourself as well as Paul Kay: The priorities that you both display are not those of us who truly believe in keeping our country a democracy. Your suggestion that we “suck it up” and try the next time is insulting – my rights as a Canadian have been violated if even one Canadian was kept from voting. Mr. Rae has my full support in his request for a Royal Commission – Elections Canada is being exposed daily as, at best, ineffective and, at worst, as influenced by the present governing party. The time span that EC required for the previous election fraud of the “in-out” scheme and the paltry fine shows us that the institution has no teeth.

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      • Profile photo of Paul Kay Paul Kay said on

        Ms. Cursely, where in my post did I suggest we ‘suck it up’? I suggested we allow the existing official bodies in place, Elections Canada and the RCMP, to pursue the matter. If they are not capable of finding who is at fault, then how do you propose a group of appointed officials pursuing a Royal Commission would be any more effective? And if a Royal Commission is convened, do we halt all future elections until it has come to a close and all recommendations are enacted and in place, perhaps years from now? Instead, I propose we strengthen the voting public with increased education on the voting process and the tools to make informed choices. One poster commented, to quote: “Most people barely have time to make up their minds during the election”. Should someone in this position be voting in the first place, if their choice is so uninformed? How effective is the voting populace if this is the approach people take to such an important decision? People who want to vote, who choose to vote, if they hold this privilege so dear, should take it upon themselves to be as informed as possible. If we’re going to focus on one person who was misdirected from their vote, which is a truly unfortunate incident (and I am not discounting what has occurred, it’s reprehensible) we should also be placing equal, if not more, focus and energy on the 50+ percent of eligible voters who do not to participate in every election, which I think is a more effective use of limited financial resources.

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        • Profile photo of Maureen Cursley Maureen Cursley said on

          In a perfect world, Canadians would be educated in school about our system of government and the responsibilities of living in a democracy. Either that, or the present government could divert the Action! Plan ad money to similar coverage regarding the responsibility of voting. However, what we have is a country in which very few consider voting much more than an interruption in their daily grind – the lack of belief in the integrity of all politicians has fed into Harpers success. The Reformers can get their voters to the polling stations, the other parties have to do the same. In today’s environment,unless voters are fined for not voting, turnout will continue to be low. The G&M editorial has the same thoughts as you have, but my question is whether you are willing to wait for several generations of Canadians to be educated to the standard that you believe, or do you think that the vote should be withheld from all, having to be earnred by a written examination?

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  3. Profile photo of Patrick Perron Patrick Perron said on

    I’d go one step further … It’s time to change how elections are handled in Canada.

    We need to set fair rules for all parties and more importanly, we need to keep it clean!

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  4. Profile photo of Richard McAllister Richard McAllister said on

    I disagree with the other posts that state that we should leave this issue alone or allow the system presently in place to investigate.

    At stake is the confidence in the most basic right of democracy that the electoral process can be trusted and that an individual’s vote is made without interference. Most people barely have time to make up their minds during the election and can be too easily misdirected by these who prefer to employ dirty tricks for their candidates or party in order to win.

    A Royal Commission can investigate not only these calls but include a review of all technologies that can be used in an election and make rules accordingly. No matter who broke the rules and how far up it goes it is always better for the public to know all the facts and know what actions have been made to remedy the situation. We only have one vote it must count.

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  5. Profile photo of Nita Varma Nita Varma said on

    What’s happened is very serious. This is not a partisan issue. Unfortunately because Mr. Harper is going to not respond as a PM by ensuring all federal processes are kept to standards as per our constitution and laws the other parties as usual have to do the work that is “his”. His role as PM is way more than “agenda”…whether it’s national security, emergencies…integrity of government is an unbiased regard to the people. The minute such understanding of the large numbers of election irregularities that seem like fraud…walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..it’s an election fraud duck…he should have championed the rights of Canadians. Elections Canada and the RCMP were not able to find the cause of election fraud as reported in 2008…and in 2011 it came back bigger and worse. It’s not a robocall issue like the media has been presenting it..it’s election fraud. Very serious…as it means the thin majority the government has may be illegitimate. People have the right to know..as soon as possible..and to partake in by elections. We need to show competency in rectifying wrongs to the people if we want to believe we are part of democracy…not part of corruption that makes our voting attempts pointless. Thanks to the Liberal Party for not letting this issue be redefined by Mr. Harper…and showing appropriate response in calling for a Royal Commission or at least an independent inquiry. People are fully within their rights to take this to the courts and challenge election results. It’s serious. Impersonating an elections officer or Elections Canada is attempts at robbing voters of their right to partake in elections without undue duress or harrassment. And for those that say this doesn’t affect me…what about the elderly and many Canadians that rely on communications to place their votes..and who take their rights seriously to heart ? We have to start standing for each other again as a country. Petition signed and shared…and topic discussed to as many as I can. And happy to do so.

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  6. Profile photo of Jarek Walter Jarek Walter said on

    As of today, with the release of statement by Marc Mayrand, the chief electoral officer, the number of 31,000 complains was reduced to 700 only. The majority of 31,000 “contacts” were the result of an online petition calling for a public inquiry. Is this the result of our petition?

    As per National Post ( http://tinyurl.com/7fum4r9) :

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    • Profile photo of Richard McAllister Richard McAllister said on

      Elections Canada says of the 31000 calls that 700 have enough evidence for them to pursue. That fact doesn’t diminish the extend of the scandal. Plus it is early in the investigation. I still think a Royal Commission would have more latitude to get to the whole truth. The liberal values I hold wants all the truth and potential solutions put out there unspun from political machinery.

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      • Profile photo of Jarek Walter Jarek Walter said on

        Again, to be precise, according to Elections Canada they will review the 700 complaints and weigh the evidence and determine whether they constitute a breach or possible breach of election law. Therefore, it’s possible that at the end, we will end up with significantly lower number of breaches of election law than 700. I think it would have been wise to gather more facts or wait for the results of Election Canada investigation before ringing all possible bells.

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        • Profile photo of Richard McAllister Richard McAllister said on

          So we agree that 700 reports are being investigated by elections Canada? Is that precise enough?

          I think you would rather wait and see and I think regardless of Elections Canada’s investigation a Royal Commission would be better. I prefer the the greater latitude it would have. Disagree you all you want but I say go for it. I would prefer the whole system reviewed because it appears after vetting the complaints,700 merit further review,yet some of the others may be indicative of something going on.

          Cheers

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  7. Profile photo of Richard McAllister Richard McAllister said on

    I don’t where I and Ms. Cursley disagreed. If I wasn’t clear I would prefer a Royal Commission. I want the electoral process to not only deal with these calls, but I want a complete review of the rules to ensure where our votes aren’t undermined, while allowing citizens to vote. Technology needs to be reviewed for practices and threats to the sanctity of the election process.

    I hope I am making more sense.
    Cheers – richard

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  8. Profile photo of Nita Varma Nita Varma said on

    You know you’re in trouble…when the top office of Canada replies “No comment” as evidence points to election fraud..instead of a concerned immediate call for public inquiry. This isn’t whether this happened to enough people to bear attention…its the revelation of election techniques that condone misleading voters. I think unfortunately I’ve heard our PM condone lying to the public or in response to questions by the opposition in the House of Commons as perfectly acceptable under “free speech”. There is a chance this government is illegitimate…and in the absence of the PM pursuing justice for the people…we have a problem. Independent public inquirty/Royal Commission with powers of subpoena. Elections Canada should be upset at the understanding such techniques were used on Canadian voters, period. Right and wrong sometimes is simple. RCMP as well..if this happened in 2008, where was the national warning by these guys to Canadians to keep a heads up in other elections ? I consider individuals like former Conservative MP Inky Mark as unsung heroes…he represented the good values of the Conservative and acted according to conscience. Harper punishes dissenters and ensures reprimmand for people attempting to act from conscience or respecting the dynamics of a healthy democracy. Trouble at the top office. Voter suppression is something that exists and is employed on a massive level in the States..and looks like the machine of that group of people got the go ahead to enter Canada….no way. I admire all Canadians that are fighting this…and not letting it die down as the guilty are privately hoping it does. http://thecanadianpoliticalscene.blogspot.com/2012/03/robocall-scandal-pieces-fall-into-place.html

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    • Profile photo of Richard McAllister Richard McAllister said on

      Is Inky Mark the right name? I wasn’t aware so thanks for the information. I will check this out.

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    • Profile photo of Richard McAllister Richard McAllister said on

      Is Inky Mark the right name? I wasn’t aware so thanks for the information. I will check this out.
      I also know there are conservatives that are honest and truthful, much like liberals. I also know that dirty tricks imported from the States that mar their elections and cast a cloud on democracy and serve to undermine trust in the process.
      Best get all the dirty laundry out so we can move forward.

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