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I am frusrated in reading the comments in both the “community and “en famille”.When is there going to be some serious comments on how to defeat the regime pesently destroying this country? How about some views on the NCC”and “Northern Foundation” I realize that presently the concern is mostly about about the national convention but at least the occasional comment on the aforementioned would be an interesting change..
I agree that is the most important issue going forward. However, I think this convention is the time to recover and rebuild from the devastating defeat.
Once that is done, then the focus needs to turn to a honest assessment of whether the Liberal Party of Canada can ever elect another government in the form it is now, while contesting a united right.
I think the answer is no, but there are still many in the party who either think differently, or it is in their interests not to address the issue.
Great convention. Sounds like a repositioning for the next election not the soul searching rebuilding that needs to take place.
Shiela Copps, John Nunziata, Brian Tobin are the very reason I STOPPED voting Liberal.
hello r
could you tell me why you would find Nunziata, Tobin and Copps offensive or disparaging to you.. Is it their attitude, style or beliefs.. perhaps we should be looking into that and see what would work better for liberals..
also.. I just looked at the logo in the Liberal sign on this site at least, and you’ll notice the maple leaf stem forms the accent aigu.. so it works in both languages.. cheers!
Can I ask if anyone knows if that is an accent aigu in the new liberal logo?
Moving forward, we need a slogan that captures Liberal Party values.
My offering is ‘It’s about the children’ which evokes; at least to me many images.
- A better future
- A sustainable environment
- Education
- Anti-Poverty
- Not just our children, but all the children of the world
60,000 heads are better than one, so let’s see what we can offer from the grass roots.
Chris: You will recall that the theme of our last Campaign was “Your Family, Your Future, Your Canada”. I thought it was pretty good. But throughout Stephen Harper talked about all the anti-family things like Economy, No Gun Registry, No Seat on the Security Council, Mega Prisons, Mega Oil, Child Care through the Mail and the F-35. And he got a majority.
I still think our achillies heel was the Economy. Michael Ignatieff could talk without notes about everything but the Economy. We see whats happening at Caterpillar in London, Ontario. We need a policy on keeping jobs in Canada.
I also believe that we have to include Low Carbon Energy (nuclear, wind, geothermal, solar).
I am not great at slogans, but the Economy and Green Energy have to part of our central story I think.
I winced when Michael Ignatieff took such
a strong stand for the ilegal immigrants. I agreed with his point but did he not know that the voters leave their political correct persona outside the door when they enter the voting booth? Harper was particularly good at reaching the voter’s gut level, arousing fear of crime and terrorists. We have to be aware that high sounding rhetoric does not sell well to a modern face book audience. Our best chances lie in separating ourselves from the other parties.Promising PP, going after the drug lord’s wallet, thus reducing crime, and selling it soon gives us years to get over the tories attacks on such moves and get the message to the public and on our side. Too bad we voted against the Royal issue– Canada First
Hi Martin, thanks for correcting my title error of Margaret Atwood’s book, and my apologies to Margaret Aywood! I did enjoy A Handmaid’s Tale. I will check out Cider House Rules.
My definition of fundamentalist religions are those that think that theirs is the only real religion, the only way into heaven and follow their religious laws to the exclusion of the evolution of time, technology and people. My feelings are extremely personal. My father was catholic and mother protostant. For 1 year I was sent to boarding school and it was a “born again” Christian school. Any students who weren’t “born again” didn’t have the same standing as those who were. I was told that I was going to he’ll unless I converted, also all my family in France was also going to hell simply because they drink wine. I will never forget being ostracized and treated like a lesser person due to my religion!
I am aware that the PMO’s office has been hiring interns directly out of these “born again Christian” schools and their aim is to fashion Canada along their beliefs. For those politicians who can separate their belief system from their leadership responsibilities, I applaud them and thank them. For those who hide their beliefs and work secretly to change Canada, I want them out!
The supreme court should protect us, unless a prime minister stocks it with judges that have similar religious beliefs. Please be clear, I have nothing against any religion as long as it doesn’t force it’s beliefs on me, or break our laws.
I do agree with you, Catherine. There is a shift taking place in Canada towards the religious right that is, and will continue to be, aided by the actions of PM Harper and his theo-con advisers. The conservative machine is very good at hiding their long term plans. There will be no radical shifting of laws by the conservatives, rather a slow tugging, a nip here and a tuck there…like the movement to recognize fetal rights…as they alter what Canada stands for. But then, every political party’s intention is to “fashion Canada along their own beliefs”. And this is the party that we elected.
The rest of us need to come together and take back control of our country. I believe we can and I believe we will. Because I believe that there are more of “us” than “them”. But many of “us” were fooled by the conservatives into thinking that they posed no real danger, that all they cared about was fixing the economy (even though most of the economic problems can be tracked back to the conservatives). And the rest of “us” split our votes between the other parties. I my opinion, we need a non-compete agreement in the next election between the NDP and the LPC, to take back control and then with that (temporary) coalition we need to legislate electoral reform and get away from first-past-the-post elections. Then we can start moving Canada forward based on what the majority of Canadians really want.
The Liberals need strong policies based on human rights, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and on Canadian law. And we need to be diligent in identifying the “nips and tucks” being made by the conservative government and forcing Canadians to wake up and recognize what is happening – before it is too late.
All I am really saying about “religion” is, if we try fighting them as “too fundamentalist” or as “too cultist” – we are fighting them on their terms and, like it or not, it ends up looking like we are fighting religion and religious freedoms. We cannot win that battle and we should not go there. Keep our arguments about law, science, and fact and try to stay away from the emotionally charged arena of religion.
First there is a poll on the abortion issue at:http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2012/01/question-of-the-day-504.html#
I cannot understand how we can still talk about a woman as if she consisted of compartments and I’m sure that reflects a lack of respect for women. The fetus is part of a woman and will remain so until she rejects it by birth or by abortion.Society has no place inside the body of a woman.